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Philosophical Question: What is best/worse - clean renewable energy from waterfalls or

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QuintessentialShadow · 11/09/2008 22:50

ruining a river and the habitat of many plants and animals.

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QuintessentialShadow · 23/11/2008 11:46

Thanks all.

It is not Norsk Hydro, I think they make fertilizier? It is a small powercompany specilizing in "small nature friendly" mountain based powerplants.

There are other ways to make power, of course, they are building a windmill park not far away on a very windy island. That doesnt help me as long as there are plans for making a powerplant "on my river".

I am back now, as the other landowners are involving the courts to clarify the rights of the fall. There are two of us not signing, the other has involved the nature protection agencies, so they are in the know.

The river was a major spawning place for salmon. And also the Norwegian National Bird the Cinclus Cinclus is laying eggs in these waterfalls, and there are only registered between 5000 and 25000 eggs laid each year in the entire country, so not a lot.

But, I really am stuck now, as I thought by not signing, it might just "go away". It wont. Can the court force me to sign? Can the court demand our rights sold to the other landowners? They own land along the river, but me and the other landowner not signing own on either side of one waterfall, while we own on both sides of the other waterfall.

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gizmo · 24/11/2008 17:44

QS,

I'm very intrigued about the comment about energy going to Sweden at low price. Why are your energy companies doing that, when the home market has a better price?

On the whole, I think the overall threat to many of the species you mention from a +2-5 c rise in temperature is probably greater than the loss of one specific bit of habitat, but I appreciate it probably doesn't feel like that from where you are.

QuintessentialShadow · 25/11/2008 23:28

"On the whole, I think the overall threat to many of the species you mention from a +2-5 c rise in temperature is probably greater than the loss of one specific bit of habitat"

So, what you are saying is that by allowing the development of this powerplant, which is clean sustainable energy that does not contribute to global warming, I am actually aiding the very habitat I am concerned with MORE than by refusing it?

Interesting, you see, this is what my poor Classicaly trained brain is grappling with. Thank you.

As for sweden, I dont know why. There is apparently excess energy floating around.

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gizmo · 26/11/2008 13:10

Does Norway have a large amount of windpower? If it does, one explanation might be that Norwegian generators have to choose to export power when the wind is blowing and generation is greater than local demand. If they're doing that, then the spot price of the exported energy is likely to be very low.

QuintessentialShadow · 26/11/2008 20:17

It could be, there are wind generators on island, and some wave turbines too.

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