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littlefrog · 09/05/2008 19:42

then have a look at this

I've just been reading it, and it's really interesting. Was particularly struck by their condemnation of 'degradable' plastic bags.

What do people think?

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WowOoo · 09/05/2008 20:03

Will have to read some of that later but so far am shocked. Thought paper bags were better than plastic. Hey, may have skim-read it wrongly...
Ta for link!

littlerach · 09/05/2008 20:06

Interesting reading.
Make syou think, even more.

littlefrog · 11/05/2008 08:37

Yes, I know, I was surprised by some of it. A few things that struck me:

  • carbon footprint of a paper bag something like twice that of equivalent plastic
  • maximum 'value' you get out of recycling paper/plastic is about 50% (ie it takes half the energy to recycle that it does to start from fresh)
  • degradable and starch-based plastics are worse than 'real' plastic, because they mess up recycling, and (in the case of starch) are extremely energy-intensive to make.

Thing is, there's still nowhere near enough information to allow us to make sensible choices. For instance, I can compost a paper bag/cardboard punnet, but I can't recycle a plastic mushroom punnet. Even though the paper one takes more energy to make, the fact that it can be recycled means half the energy can be recouped - does that make it better again? And what about the fact that paper is 'present day' carbon, not fossil carbon (plastic)?

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sarah293 · 11/05/2008 09:23

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Fillyjonk · 11/05/2008 09:28

they are proposing to reuse the plastic, I think?

I hope so, that would be the most logical thing to do

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