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i use plastic carrier bags from tesco to chuck out my rubbish in, what would i use instead?

38 replies

pukkapatch · 20/11/2007 23:12

we have a recycling green bin for paper, cans, plastic etc. a kerbside glass collection. a garden waste collection, and of course a rubbish collection.
i dont do gardening. just cant. so abuot three or four times a summer, when the garden is turning into a jungle, dh either cuts it back himself or pays someone else to do it. basically what i am saying is, dont ask me to compost kitchen waste, cos i simply dont use it.

anyways, my original question. i use the tesco carrier bags for rubbish. what would i use instead if the government bans them? how do i put rubbish in the bin? cant fill the wheelie bin full without a liner as it would stink, and ebasically be a health hazard. what can i do ?

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LucyLasticBand · 20/11/2007 23:15

my thoughts exactly. i use them too, and what would be the point of buying black bin liners??
although yu can recycle tescos carrier bags, just seems pointless to actually buy binliners doesnt it

Doodledootoo · 20/11/2007 23:17

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pukkapatch · 20/11/2007 23:18

exactly lucy. thats why i never buy the bin liners. i feel i am actually reusing the bags myself.

i personally feel the plastic in the shampoo, condioner bottles is more of a waste. whilst i do recycle them, its really only because it is a kerbside collection. if i had to go to a bank, i doubt i would recycle anything other than newspapers.

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LucyLasticBand · 20/11/2007 23:19

but the rubbish inside isnt decomposable is it?

pukkapatch · 20/11/2007 23:19

yes, ive seen the decomposable black bin liners. but surely it would be better to just make the carrier bags from that stuff, so people can use them for rubbish as well?

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LucyLasticBand · 20/11/2007 23:20

didhnt they use to be biodegradable? what happened tothem?

Doodledootoo · 20/11/2007 23:30

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Zazette · 20/11/2007 23:42

pukkapatch, you don't need to be a keen gardener to make composting worthwhile. Just compost your kitchen waste and spread it on a bed in your garden - you'll only have to do that about once a year, it's not a major task. Or if even that's too much for you (or your dh), freecycle your compost.

Either would be much better than letting all your food waste go to landfill. For reasons too dull to explain, I've stopped composting temporarily for the last couple of weeks, and it's easily doubled the volume of waste we put in the bin over the course of a week.

needmorecoffee · 21/11/2007 08:45

Somerfirleds and Co-op claim their bags are reyclable. No idea if thats true or not.
We buy compostable black bags to put the rubbish inside the wheelie bin. I guess every 2 weeks we put out 3 black bags. We're a family of 6. All food (cooked and uncooked is composted) Used to feed the cooked scaps to the hens until the fox ate them last week, cardboard goes in the green wheelie bin. Tins and bottles are collected and plastic bottles we take to the plastic bottle bank. So the 'rubbish' really is crisps packets and lids of bottles. Sort of thing you can't recysle.
It does mean the bin never smells cos there's nothing rotting in it.

littlefrog · 21/11/2007 13:27

I'm not too sure about these compostable/decomposable bags. Riverford uses them, and then 6 months ago or so their farm news said that the work they'd done on the energy chain suggested that plastic actually might be better... Plus which if decomposable/biodegradable goes to landfill it means b* all, it won't decompose.

On compost, some friends have no garden but do have a compost bin (dalek-style) - they only take out what they need to to stop the bin overflowing (couple of pots-worth a year, even though the bin always seems to be almost full). Give it a go, pukkapatch!

GrapefruitMoon · 21/11/2007 13:39

pukka, in countries where they have already banned/started charging for plastic bags, you tend to get given lots of paper bags instead - when you buy clothes for example. (People generally use reusable plastic bags for grocery shopping.)
I would think that the paper bags could be used for lining bins.

I know when I lived in the US many years ago, groceries were always packed in (strong) paper bags at the supermarket, which were then re-used at home for the "trash". We also used paper bags for our lunches rather than plastic - but it is really difficult to find small paper bags in the UK to use for that...

needmorecoffee · 21/11/2007 15:24

Mines a dalek style. We have a titchy inner city garden.

EmsMum · 21/11/2007 15:39

The US brown sacks work quite well if you're in a car - you do need something with handles otherwise.

I used to be a really green shopper - bicycle panniers!

EmsMum · 21/11/2007 15:41

I believe the Co-op bags are decomposable...
I met a lady who said she'd stored some shoes in one and 6 months later her wardrobe was full of little shreds of plastic. I'm sure the co-op meant well but not clear that they are such a good idea.

WendyWeber · 21/11/2007 15:49

Supermarket carrier bags have holes near the bottom - there is always soggy stuff in our kitchen bin, if we used carrier bags it would leak everywhere.

So I do buy binliners - sorry OTOH I use proper shopping bags so I don't get many carrier bags anyway (in fact we are right out of them atm, I need to forget my shopping bags next time I go!)

We recycle glass, plastic, aluminium and cardboard and for 4 of us we put out one black bag a week as a rule.

EmsMum · 21/11/2007 15:53

The trick is to make sure that something either plasticky or absorbent goes into the carrier bag liner first.

Silly question but how do you remember to take your proper bags? I have some good ones (mostly aquired by DH at conferences) but can never remember to take the darned things anywhere except to the local farm shop. I've only once managed to get them to the supermarket. Arggggg my placcy bag cupboard is full to bursting...

WendyWeber · 21/11/2007 16:05

I have more than I need to use in one trip, and I try to keep them in the car - whenever I've used some I stash them near the front door and take them out again next time I have my brain in gear.

I have:

2 large Sainsburys shoppers
2 Sainsburys bottle bags
1 large Tesco shopper
1 small Tesco shopper
2 of those monster things from Lakeland here (they are massive, you have to try not to put too much heavy stuff in or you can't lift them)
and a selection of bags for life.

pukkapatch · 21/11/2007 16:20

i have a massive garden.
well, to my untrained eyes it is massive. we did havve as ort of compost heap at the end of it. and i did used to add stuff to it. but,
over one winter, when i was heavily pregnant, adn then had third child. by the time weather was warmer, adn baby no longer newborn, i ventured there, and it had composted right down, but was complelty overgrown with ivy. and sinc ethen, i have steered clear of the thing.
i do need one of those dalek type ones.
i hate all things to do with dirt andmud. and creepy crawly things. yucht.

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EmsMum · 21/11/2007 16:26

If you hire a jungle-taming gardener, he might deal with the compost. real gardeners love the stuff!

pukkapatch · 21/11/2007 16:38

lol.
getting dh to get a real gardener is a bit of a battle itself.

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EmsMum · 21/11/2007 16:40

Come to think, the division of labour in our family is I put the stuff in the compost bin, DH takes care of turning it and spreading it. He's not a real gardener but he likes getting something for nothing!

sophy · 21/11/2007 18:39

Emsmum you need an Onya bag - they clip to your key ring so you never forget them.

www.onyabags.co.uk/

EmsMum · 21/11/2007 18:59

Um but I'd need a whole bunch of them to fit the shopping and then my keys wouldn't fit in my handbag!

But thanks for the thought!

Doodledootoo · 21/11/2007 19:07

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WendyWeber · 21/11/2007 19:15

A lot of local authorities give dalek bins away - check here

Lots of other useful inf and recycling products on that website too