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Want to live in the middle of nowhere and as far away from the 'modern world' as possible ideally in the uk

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fourlittleangels · 29/05/2013 22:41

Where do i start? Any suggestions?

I want to escape modern technology and for my children to grow up living the simple life...

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VerySmallSqueak · 30/05/2013 23:39

Can you pencil me in for that one for 80k please Quint.

View 24 is just breathtaking.

VerySmallSqueak · 30/05/2013 23:40

(can anyone lend me £79,995? - I can find the rest myself.....)

fourlittleangels · 31/05/2013 00:07

Dont mind basic would love a little more room for the sproglits :)

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fourlittleangels · 31/05/2013 00:15

Wow think i would take any house if it was placed in any of those locations...one day ;)

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froginthepond · 31/05/2013 11:14

OP have you had a look at the Eco village in Findhorn Scotland? that may be what you would like? www.ecovillagefindhorn.org Smile

fourlittleangels · 31/05/2013 15:47

Thanks frog just had a quick scan through will look properly tonight. Looks good though, but can't see anything to say you can buy/rent a property there?

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Liara · 31/05/2013 20:59

In France.

ouryve · 31/05/2013 23:06

That 80K house reminds me of our hallway before I started attacking it with primer and white paint!

fourlittleangels · 31/05/2013 23:42

The more I look into it the more the Scottish isles become very tempting. Still have no idea how to go about finding more detail, which island, price of living, housing, schools etc.

Where do you start? There are so many islands for a start and I've read about some national trust islands which offer housing opportunities too.

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fourlittleangels · 31/05/2013 23:53

JacquelineHyde I wondered if you would mind pm me with some more info on the Shetland islands and your experiences etc.

Can't work out how to pm you!

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alreadytaken · 01/06/2013 08:44

to pm click on the message poster link on the blue bar with their name above one of their posts.

There are plots on Lismore where you could build a house.

Start by thinking bout how you would fund your life on a Scottish island.

fourlittleangels · 01/06/2013 09:07

Thank you. Did see some plots but no idea how to go about building or how much it would be to do there.

And in terms of funding our life there and a living - no idea - no idea of the cost of living.. I've read blogs where lots of people seem to do their own things like crafts or helping around the island. I wouldn't have thought it's enough to live on!?

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alreadytaken · 01/06/2013 12:26

cost of living is always high on islands because of the cost of transporting things to the island. I'm not an expert but I'd expect at least 25% higher than the mainland, possibly more. In many rural communities people have several jobs and still struggle. If you don't have independent means I'd look on the mainland or perhaps Wales/ the North of England/ Ireland.

Building costs depend on how much work you do yourselves but there are calculators around on the web. Add on 25% at least, as for the cost of living.

People talk about "living the dream" but it can be surviving the nightmare.

fourlittleangels · 01/06/2013 14:09

I did think that but also wondered how many of the resident earn an income. Jobs but be few and far between in the rural areas.
For example an island I looked at had a population of 30 and no shop or anything on the island except a generator. Deliveries of food must have been at a premium but how they earnt much at all I don't know.

I know the rigs pay well, not sure how many people in those areas work on them.

If financially it would cost a lot more than where we are then we would not be able to do it I don't think :(

I would hope general spending would be less, with the need for less 'stuff' and things like clubs, fashion etc.

I liked the look of the tiny island, Muck. But I know realistically that would be too remote for us, I would like to be able to keep in contact via the internet with family. So would love a really rural area where we can still connect with the 'outside world' when we choose to.

Maybe I'm looking for something that doesn't exist with job restrictions etc, but if I don't at least look/try I will always be wondering!

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fourlittleangels · 01/06/2013 14:10

Rushed post excuse typos

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forevergreek · 01/06/2013 15:40

I suppose it depends on your jobs. We both currently work out of the home an from home, but we could easily change jobs slightly to work solely from home and then location makes no difference. This is what we plan in 5 years time ( I think we need that time to grow in our line of work, train more and gain vital contacts etc)

forevergreek · 01/06/2013 15:41

I mean I think that's what most people in remote places do. Work via computer

fourlittleangels · 01/06/2013 16:08

I will have to look into it somemore maybe the highlands may reduce living costs slightly, and increase work opportunities.

Our work backgrounds wouldn't cross over into from home businesses - well mine could but income would be minimal I think.

My partners background and qualifications were in engineering before his injury not sure if any of his previous qualifications would serve him in a different way. But his job roles have been I.T. based.

Think he is going to have a look tonight to see if there are positions in his current role in other areas that he could transfer too. But that wouldn't be an option on one of the islands.

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fourlittleangels · 01/06/2013 16:09

Haven't been I.T based.

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alreadytaken · 01/06/2013 16:11

In remote places broadband can be slow and unreliable. You don't have to be very remote to have your power lines brought down by stores, although you probably would have a back-up generator. Our "self-sufficient" friends grow crops for food and keep animals to sell/barter for those items that were difficult to produce. I'm fairly sure they still have some sort of tax to pay (council tax?). You could keep sheep and spin/weave your own clothing but you'd probably prefer a washing machine to hand-washing your clothes. On a scottish island you could perhaps use windpower for some of your electricity and fish for some of your food. However the growing season for crops might be more restricted.

Although the Good Life TV programmes were romanticised they did have some realistic messages about unexpected demands for money, crop failures and the problems of producing wearable clothing. There's a lot more paperwork these days and more restrictions on, e.g movement and slaughter of animals.

Can I suggest a few working weekends on organic farms www.wwoof.org.uk/

alreadytaken · 01/06/2013 16:12

storms not stores, sorry

specialsubject · 04/06/2013 22:11

er...escape modern technology but still want the internet??

trial it where you are. Turn off the electricity and gas, and the piped water. Stop using the car. No phone, no medical assistance.

all these things are modern technology. And you will still need to eat.

if you mean 'get outside more and consume less', that is much more achievable. Stop buying things you don't need (clothes except for replacements, magazines, makeup, mobile internet/smartphones etc etc), waste nothing, have fun outside whatever the weather.

sounds like a start.

beatricequimby · 06/08/2013 23:06

If you are thinking of the Highlands you might be better with the mainland - lots of it still very remote. The cost of getting on and off the islands by ferry can be high. I think the Highland Council website has a section about moving to the Highlands. I would think it would be possible to get IT work somewhere depending on what your dh does. Personally, if I was you I would be looking at an area with a High School so your children don't have to board or do a really long daily journey. I would also be looking for somewhere with quite a lot of other incomers too.

I think what you want is achievable and quite a few people do it. But quite a lot of others try it for a few years and give it up. So if you are going to go for it think about whether you will be able to afford to leave if you decide it isn't for you.

RenterNomad · 20/08/2013 19:18

When we lived in London (zone 3), we went to our local park once or twice a day (twice = morning and afternoon), so DS grew up walking and scooting a lot more.

All our ante-natal friends were there.

I went to sewing classes once a week. (There was local childcare available: nursery and a drop-them-off playgroup)

There was excellent transport, meaning people could come to our local centre for the market and shops (very good haberdasher, so I made lots of things for us/presents), local tradespeople so things could be repaired (e.g. mending jewellery, re-soling shoes, cheap "ethnic" food). There was no stigma to charity shop-shopping, nor to second hand children's things; rather, there was an extremely good periodic table sale which was utterly middle class.

We have moved to the 'burbs, where, by contrast:

  • there is a LOT more driving, and the "countryside" is actually a PITA to "access", given the faff of driving and parking.
  • we have to make new friends, which is not only a matter of trying to connect with people but with opportunities. Also, gievn that I didn't join an antenatal group for DC2 (longer DH commute, no reciprocal childcare for DS), my poor DD has no friends her own age, whereas she would have had a ready-made network, if we had stayed in our old place.
  • this suburb is a bit of a "black hole" for courses and activities, for me and for the DC
  • the local high street is pretty blighted, especially with some larger centres nearby which draw all the shoppers

We had friends at various income levels, and I think that heterogeneity made it less "essential" for parents or children to "conform" (though there was a certain amount of conformity, e.g. in breastfeeding)

I hope that didn't sound like a moan; I was trying to be analytical. Basically, our quality of life is considerably poorer here despite our having a garden and larger house. In fact, the garden is emblematic of the problem: people entertain at home, rather than meeting one another at the park, so how do you meet people in the first place? (school, I suppose, but that's been slow work, too)

You're going to lose all the networks of your existing life, so the new place had better be worth it. I agree with previous posters about trying out a setting before committing to it.

As for "outdoor values" things for your kids to do, could you afford summer camp in the US one year? I did that as a child ("Interlocken", in New Hampshire), and it was a paradise of communal cabins, lake-swimming, drama, tree-climbing, instrument-building, sports, etc. A lot of the counsellors were pretty hippyish, meaning we had new role models. There were the usual "cool kids", of course, but enough of the "other" sort for there to be a genuine choice of friends.

TeoandSophie · 08/12/2013 19:04

I live in central London and my son spends most of his time up a tree. He watches a bit of telly on Saturday mornings but that's it. We don't own a car and walk most places or jump on the bus.
I don't think geography gives you what you are looking for- I think parenting choices do.

And I'm a bit surprised about your willingness to escape from bombs, poverty, war (can't remember the full list). Doesn't that just make it other people's problems? I think as well as finding a way to balance modern technology with childhood, it's equally important to teach kindness, charity, empathy...

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