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Ethical dilemmas

Family member stealing from elderly grandma

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Billynoname · 18/07/2025 05:18

My grandma is 96 and in good physical and mental health. No indications of dementia. She lives alone and is very independent. My mum (her daughter) speaks to her daily and visits for several hours 2-3 times per week. Grandma has been widowed for 45 years, worked in accounts, then ran her own business, and has always handled her money well.

My cousin who lives locally (her granddaughter) does her food shopping once a week. My grandma gives her her card to pay with and it's always in the sane shop and for around the same price each week.

My grandma recently mentioned that she thinks some money is missing from her account. My mum has secured power of attorney and has spoken to the fraud team at the bank. They have investigated and have confirmed that the card has not been cloned and that on the same day each week money is being withdrawn from cash points around the town using the correct PIN. Only my grandma and cousin know this PIN.

Appx £5k has gone over a few months. My parents have searched my grandmas house but there is so sign of the withdrawals there. It's also highly unlikely that grandma could have got to some of the withdrawal locations since she does not drive or use taxis. She's also not forgetful. She's been worrying about it for a while but has eventually told my mum.

The withdrawals are always made on the same day, which coincides with visits from my cousin who grandma reports pops in, goes to visit a friend then returns a short while later... long enough to take the card, get a withdrawal then return.

My parents are in a state worrying how to handle this. My cousin is single, 41. My mum's sibling- her sister died and she has a cordial but distant relationship with my uncle. My parents are worried that my cousin could have an addiction problem - gambling or drugs which is fuelling the theft and so are being open minded and empathetic but also want to get to the bottom of it.

they're keen to be supportive rather than go to the police. I just don't know. There is still a chance of an unknown logical explanation so how this is handled is critical. I'm also mindful that they protect their position- if my cousin has been stealing my my grandma, she stands to inherit half of my grandmas assists in her will. Not sure that would be right especially if she does have an addiction and my parents would need the police report to document any challenge on that. God it's a mess!!

Grateful for any advice

OP posts:
Billybagpuss · 18/07/2025 20:50

AnotherDayAnotherDog · 18/07/2025 18:25

I believe that it is illegal for your mum to disclose her pin number and allow anyone else to use her bank card. She's also breaking the law (or perhaps just invalidating her contract with her bank) by doing this. Hopefully at her age she won't get into trouble.
Your Mum needs to stop this now and find some other way for the cousin to help with shopping, assuming your Mum still wants her to.

Edited

It’s not illegal but it voids any protections from the bank as it’s part of the t&c.

Banks used this argument for way longer than they should have to avoid recompensing customers long after criminals started cloning cards etc.

LIZS · 18/07/2025 21:07

Ilovemyshed · 18/07/2025 18:38

Change the pin/ card.
Do an online delivery or, if the cousin has to collect, do a click and collect.

Personally I’d go to the police as well.

This. Secure the account first, then decide how to handle it.

Whosenameisthis · 18/07/2025 21:19

Meadowfinch · 18/07/2025 06:07

This. The police can provide you with an answer in a very short period of time. If your cousin has no previous convictions, she will most likely be ordered to return the money, and may be given a fine or a suspended sentence, but it would put a stop to the theft immediately.

Or you could confront the cousin, and threaten the police unless she returns all the money immediately.

In future make sure she cannot take things from your grandma's house, because if she steals, jewellery and easily saleable items like medals will be the next to go.

The police investigation won’t be quick. Grandma is safeguarded and it’s a small amount so won’t be high on their workloads.

i am in the same situation and was told likely years before they get round to even putting it in front of the CPS, if it even reaches that bar. All cousin has to do is say grandma told her she could, and it’s one person’s word against another.

o/p sympathies. It’s shit. Unfortunately our relative wasn’t quite as on the ball with her money, and trusted the thief. It got to the point where coercive control came into play as well as they were getting them to sign documents, they picked up post and got all their accounts transferred to online so no statements for relative to check.

a huge amount of money went. They basically took every penny, but then would pitch up and take them shopping, buy their groceries etc, so it looked like they were paying for everything and doing all the caring.

it took us a long time to report as we couldn’t quite believe it either. Plus relative didn’t want them in trouble with the police, as well as being scared of the fall out. Wish we’d done it earlier tbh.

OnyourbarksGSG · 19/07/2025 20:08

So this hasn’t ended the way you expected op but please don’t query about addiction issues. If this goes to court your grandmother/your family could write to the judge or put the argument forward for the thief to sign up to your local drug service and shore they are therapy etc and see its followed through probation.

catbathat · 19/07/2025 20:28

So presumably grandma is aware now that the police are involved, and that it must be the cousin?

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