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Ethical dilemmas

How do I get the police to ACT on drug addicted family member?

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ThatZingyPearlStork · 28/04/2024 19:33

This is long story but a family member is a heavy drug user (heroin) and is also allegedly dealing and has been for as long as I can remember.

His children live at the house where he is not supposed to be living (social housing) but he flitters between this house and his drug addict gfs literally leaving his children to fend for themselves. Their mother is no longer at the family home.

My question is, if I anonymously report the family member… would the 2 younger children be taken away if their older sibling is of legal age to adopt or be special guardian to them?

The kids have been through enough so I don’t want to make the situation worse, but I just don’t know what to do or where to get advice.

The older child has been advised to tell the family member to leave the house. But naturally the child is afraid of them. Or he needs to call the police to get him forcibly removed. I feel like it’s a lot to put on a young adult.

The family member has been anonymously reported before and the police have been multiple times for DV.

What options are there? Are you allowed to change locks on social houses? Do you need to wait for the CPS process to take place before shopping him to the police? I refuse to stop until he’s arrested and kept away from the children.

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theduchessofspork · 28/04/2024 19:40

Well you need to contact the kid’s school safeguarding team tomorrow morning. You should also report to social services direct for belt and braces.

The priority is to get the kids safely cared for. SS will always aim to keep families together when possible.

You do need to act on this rather than just talk about it.

Jk987 · 28/04/2024 19:44

How old are the children he leaves on their own? This is crucial.

CrushingOnRubies · 28/04/2024 19:46

If the children live in the house where he isn't suppose to be living. Who is guardian of the children?

Ilovethewild · 28/04/2024 20:07

Who is the tenancy with? An adult has to hold a tenancy. Yes social tenants can change the locks, and are generally responsible for doing so.

if there is an adult who can safeguard the children then they should do that now.

speak to housing, school, Childrens services about ensuring long term care of children.

ThatZingyPearlStork · 29/04/2024 06:44

theduchessofspork · 28/04/2024 19:40

Well you need to contact the kid’s school safeguarding team tomorrow morning. You should also report to social services direct for belt and braces.

The priority is to get the kids safely cared for. SS will always aim to keep families together when possible.

You do need to act on this rather than just talk about it.

CPS are now involved and they’re working with the older child who is early 20s and intends to be the guardian of the younger 2 (12 & 13). CPS informed the older child that there is a process to get the addict father out, by asking him to leave. But I feel like this is such a slow, drawn out process and not sure why the police can not remove father by force now?

OK, I’ll speak to their school and make them aware of the situation.

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ThatZingyPearlStork · 29/04/2024 06:45

Jk987 · 28/04/2024 19:44

How old are the children he leaves on their own? This is crucial.

There are 3 the else’s is in his 20s and the younger 2 are 12 & 13. The eldest is trying to get guardianship of the younger two

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ThatZingyPearlStork · 29/04/2024 06:47

Ilovethewild · 28/04/2024 20:07

Who is the tenancy with? An adult has to hold a tenancy. Yes social tenants can change the locks, and are generally responsible for doing so.

if there is an adult who can safeguard the children then they should do that now.

speak to housing, school, Childrens services about ensuring long term care of children.

Currently in the mother’s name but she doesn’t live there anymore. We’re trying to get the name changed to the eldest child, the SW from CPS told them that this is possible to do? I just worry it’s going to be a long process, that drags on and on and keeps their father in their lives.

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User364837 · 29/04/2024 06:49

It’s sad if the older child wants to be the guardian but are they actually able to keep the younger two safe if they’re not able to stand up to the dad and ensure he doesn’t come in

PineappleTime · 29/04/2024 06:55

ThatZingyPearlStork · 29/04/2024 06:44

CPS are now involved and they’re working with the older child who is early 20s and intends to be the guardian of the younger 2 (12 & 13). CPS informed the older child that there is a process to get the addict father out, by asking him to leave. But I feel like this is such a slow, drawn out process and not sure why the police can not remove father by force now?

OK, I’ll speak to their school and make them aware of the situation.

Why would the police have the power to remove the father? Unless the rightful occupant calls the police after the person refuses to leave or a crime has been committed the police can't just pitch up and evict someone. I'm afraid this does fall to the adult sibling to act on.

Springlysprung · 29/04/2024 06:56

Is this in America? As CPS don’t exist in that sense in the uk, it’s Child social work services in the local authority

ThatZingyPearlStork · 29/04/2024 06:57

PineappleTime · 29/04/2024 06:55

Why would the police have the power to remove the father? Unless the rightful occupant calls the police after the person refuses to leave or a crime has been committed the police can't just pitch up and evict someone. I'm afraid this does fall to the adult sibling to act on.

He’s taking drugs in the house whilst the children are there and has drug paraphernalia littered about the room he stays in. The rightful occupant no longer has mental capacity to act on the matter and is no longer at the house

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PineappleTime · 29/04/2024 07:04

ThatZingyPearlStork · 29/04/2024 06:57

He’s taking drugs in the house whilst the children are there and has drug paraphernalia littered about the room he stays in. The rightful occupant no longer has mental capacity to act on the matter and is no longer at the house

I am sure that's true. But unless someone living there reports him, how and why would the police remove him? They can't just enter the house and arrest him; someone in the house has to make a complaint about illegal activity or him refusing to leave. People can do illegal things within their own homes. Police can only enter and arrest them with a warrant (not going to happen for a two bit drug user) or if invited in by someone.

ThatZingyPearlStork · 29/04/2024 07:05

Springlysprung · 29/04/2024 06:56

Is this in America? As CPS don’t exist in that sense in the uk, it’s Child social work services in the local authority

No, in the UK

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determinedtomakethiswork · 29/04/2024 07:28

I don't think it's fair that the older child should take on all that responsibility. I think it would actually be better if the two younger ones went to foster care with regular visits from the older sibling.

Springlysprung · 29/04/2024 08:13

What type of plan are the kids on? CIN , CP??
ring the police when you know he is using in the address with the kids there…. Police attend the PPO they kids…. Or ring CSWS today and report

tsmainsqueeze · 29/04/2024 08:24

determinedtomakethiswork · 29/04/2024 07:28

I don't think it's fair that the older child should take on all that responsibility. I think it would actually be better if the two younger ones went to foster care with regular visits from the older sibling.

I disagree , eldest child may be the only stability in their lives and may be very capable , i would have coped at 20 in this situation even though it would have been hard work , many 20year olds would be capable , also ss would hopefully offer some support .
Sounds like those poor kids have gone through enough already without being split up.

ThatZingyPearlStork · 29/04/2024 08:37

tsmainsqueeze · 29/04/2024 08:24

I disagree , eldest child may be the only stability in their lives and may be very capable , i would have coped at 20 in this situation even though it would have been hard work , many 20year olds would be capable , also ss would hopefully offer some support .
Sounds like those poor kids have gone through enough already without being split up.

You’re exactly right, he has essentially parented them since he was young and they look to him as their father figure. It would devastate them to be separated from their eldest sibling. So he is more than capable to care for them and he said he doesn’t want the kids to be taken away, which is why this situation has gone on for so long under the radar.

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PTSDBarbiegirl · 29/04/2024 08:42

Hopefully pressure can be put on housing association to rehome them and an injunction put on abusive, dangerous drug dealing father or better put him in jail.

AccountCreateUsername · 29/04/2024 09:56

ThatZingyPearlStork · 29/04/2024 08:37

You’re exactly right, he has essentially parented them since he was young and they look to him as their father figure. It would devastate them to be separated from their eldest sibling. So he is more than capable to care for them and he said he doesn’t want the kids to be taken away, which is why this situation has gone on for so long under the radar.

That poor young man. I hope he also gets the support he needs and deserves.

ThatZingyPearlStork · 29/04/2024 14:05

PTSDBarbiegirl · 29/04/2024 08:42

Hopefully pressure can be put on housing association to rehome them and an injunction put on abusive, dangerous drug dealing father or better put him in jail.

Yes my intention is after the kids are safe and supported, I will be getting their father arrested and hopefully put away.

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PiggieWig · 29/04/2024 14:12

I think getting the father arrested and hopefully put away is the key to getting the kids safe and supported.
If the CPS are involved there must be an offence that he has been charged with. Speak with both the police and children’s services about safeguarding the children.
It’s a lot for the oldest sibling to be dealing with. You can help by making all the reports you can.

CaraMiaMonCher · 29/04/2024 14:15

The use of the abbreviation CPS is confusing if you’re writing from the UK.

CPS in the UK is the Crown Prosecution Service, which makes it seem like the police are already involved with this man and the CPS are making a decision about whether to charge with something.

In America CPS is used to refer to Child Protective Services, which in the UK would generally be referred to as Children’s Social Care or Social Services.

allhailtheeyeballsinthesky · 29/04/2024 14:52

I think you also need a plan B as the Father is unlikely to receive a prison sentence for drugs these days, so will probably get a community service sentence so he will still be in the home

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