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Ethical dilemmas

Mother who is both loving but also hurtful.

9 replies

BannnnaSplit · 19/04/2024 18:00

There's no doubt, I have a very loving, generous mother, who ( as she frequently reminds me) has "sacrificed her needs and life to make sure my life was better than hers. "
Although I do appreciate her kindness and love, she can also exhibit the very opposite. She's been consistent with her controlling nature, often employing emotional manipulation to control my actions... as I've got older, wiser, I've had to learn ways to protect myself from her behaviours .Ive tried talking about how she makes me feel, but there's no getting through to her because she finds a ways to turn it around so SHES the victim and that I look ungrateful or rude etc. also, there's never an apology... but a few days later she will try to win my affection by trying to buy me something etc.
anyway... over that past few years my mental health has declined, and I currently struggle with social situations and anxiety about driving. I have a supportive partner and my mental health is calmer now since I have a beautiful dog who is always with me.
My world outside of my home has changed drastically and I don't do many of the things I used to . I'm currently working on it with therapy.
I was just cuddling my dog today, saying partly to the dog and partly out loud to mum, that I thought she was a good dog, and expressed how much she was loved by me and that I valued her company more than ever .
My mum let out an unsympathetic sigh and said in a derogatory tone " oh please.... get a life ! "
Just because I expressed affection towards my dog!

I calmly asked how she thinks I could have a better life?
Response was that I should get out more, have more hobbies, and suggested activities that I used to do that at the moment I'm too poorly to do.

I was left feeling useless, unable, full of added anxiety and it just highlighted all the things that were wrong currently with my lifestyle but I'm slowly working on in my own ways.
I felt a lack of understanding and empathy. Like a hit to the stomach .
I asked why would she say such a thing to me??
Apparently at some time ( probably years ago) I had used that phrase to her which she's obviously not forgotten, so she felt that it was an appropriate response to "tit for tat" back at me, right at a moment when I'm at my lowest ebb, feeling fragile for a number of emotional events that have occurred this last few years.
I calmly said I felt I did have a life... but just a different one from the old me.
I tried also to explain how I was unable to do the things she suggested and how that actually made me feel more upset about my disability.

I've come home this afternoon feeling low.
I love my mum dearly, and for all the good things in gratful... but I don't feel that those actions are a reasonable excuse for her to then talk to me the way she does.
I've had a life time of this kind of behaviour and pain, but I really do feel emotionally exhausted, and I just don't want to keep dreading the next " fall out " with her and how it will all end. I'm also fed up of forgiving the behaviours just because it's a parent. What do I do!

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Namechangeforthis88 · 19/04/2024 18:09

Someone else will surely have greater words of wisdom, but I had a moment when I realised I was telling the cat what I wanted someone to tell me. Could that be revealing?

You wouldn't tit for tat a friend you cared about. The best you can say is that maybe your mum was herself parented coldly or inconsistently.

BannnnaSplit · 19/04/2024 18:17

Thank you for your reply. Yes, indeed get growing up was hard

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coldcallerbaiter · 19/04/2024 18:23

It can be a cycle. Copy how you were brought up. Also sometimes someone who cares a lot can get over involved and then is disappointed if it was not done their way, they need to let go but they are scared to in case something happens or goes wrong My mother was like that with me and I feel in a different way I can do it to my kids. It is a type of anxiety.

Watchkeys · 19/04/2024 18:36

Sounds like the abuse cycle to me.

ItsVeryHyacinthBucket · 19/04/2024 18:41

Hi OP, the way your mum is won’t change, but you can do some work on the way you feel and respond to her, and how much time you spend with her.

Doing the work will take time but it will let you grow into your own. Either work with a therapist or do some reading/listen to some podcasts about psychotherapy/ attachment/ transactional analysis. Spend time on your own. Walk your dog in nice places. Meditate. Do some yoga. Insight timer is a great free app for this. At first you might feel like a right Wally but in time you’ll start to feel stronger.

fromaytobe · 19/04/2024 18:50

Your mother sounds the very opposite of loving, if you ask me.

She is only 'loving' towards you if you do and behave exactly as she wants you to, and if you stray from her narrow ideal she does not like it one bit. She then punishes you for it. After a short while she ingratiates herself with you by showing you how lovely she can be towards you - training you, in effect, to think that it is your fault when she is horrible to you the next time.

No wonder you are struggling with your mental health.

What do I do!

Perhaps the first thing you need to do is to stay as far away from her as you can. You do not have to maintain contact with someone who treats you so appallingly, even if she is your mother.

Then, maybe you need to talk all this through with a counsellor. Tell the counsellor how your mother behaves towards you and makes you feel worthless, and tell them what your childhood was like.

dottieautie · 19/04/2024 18:53

Sounds like my mum OP and it took me a long time to realise that her martyrdom is just a technique to manipulate people around her. From outsiders it gets her praise- I grew up hearing “you’re so lucky to have such a wonderful mum” from relatives and family friends but it was very different experience behind closed doors. My mum is a huge victim of things don’t go her way and I’m expected to always nod and agree.

it’s only relatively recently I’m recognising that my grandmother (who was to me an amazing role model) treated my mum badly in the same way and my mum reciprocated by doing the same to me. Thankfully this recognition has allowed me to break the cycle.

You can’t change your mum, she won’t change she sees nothing wrong with her behaviour. You can change how to respond to her poor behaviours. It’s ok to recognise that your mum isn’t or wasn’t a good mum and saying it out loud is a revelation.

that doesn’t change the fact that there is probably some kind of dysfunctional love there - she will care for you and do kind things but recognise it’s never unconditional. There will be a transaction sooner or later.

im sorry it’s like that but you can learn to manage it. It’s never quite so easy to walk away as they make out on mn so finding ways of coping is a decent alternative

Woohow · 19/04/2024 19:31

Has she really "sacrificed her needs and life to make sure my life was better than hers. "? Or does she just say that to emotionally manipulate you? does she say that when you try to bring up her bad behaviour for instance?

PsychoSyd · 19/04/2024 19:44

Get yourself over to the Stately Homes thread in Relationships. You are not alone in this 💐

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