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Toxic family members with cancer - why so much guilt?

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macdui · 06/02/2024 13:11

I have a truly awful toxic family. DM and DB toxic beyond belief with DM enabling the behaviour of DB and me left as the family emotional punchbag. DB has always been the golden one. Can do no wrong, can treat DM like rubbish. I'm left exhausted after contact with them but stupidly keep trying. I know neither will ever change - counselling 10 years back taught me that.

Both absolutely hate my DH and want me to leave him to move closer to them. I'm about 4 hours away and won't be moving. This has been ongoing for a long time. DH and myself have been together nearly 30 years and he's more than aware my family would like to split us up. As a result we try very hard to make sure that doesn't happen.

Now both of them are facing cancer. DM seems quite pleased as she has wanted to die for 25+ years.

They are using illness to get what they want. Trying to guilt me into moving near them to run around after them and ultimately look after them when they get sick. I realise I'm being selfish but I can't do it, I reckon I would last less than a day of being verbally abused and shouted at and that's based on when they are well. I've been told I'm useless, selfish, worthless and a lot worse far too often. DM becomes 1000 times worse when sick. DB is morose but very shouty. I'm scared of him. I don't think he'd be physically abusive but he's put fists through multiple walls so don't wish to find out!

So why why why do I feel so damn guilty? I get nothing but nastiness from my family. I'm under no illusion they will ever change. I've learned over the years that trying to fix things or bail them out is pointless. Now I don't try to intervene or fix stuff, I listen and let them vent and rant which can be incredibly mentally taxing. I've only ever tried to be a decent human being. I don't play evil games with people like they do. If they were friends I'd have broken off all contact long ago yet I keep returning for more.

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Pashazade · 06/02/2024 13:45

You owe them nothing. Block them on every available method of contact and ignore. They have made their bed by continued abuse of your love. You deserve better. Just because they are blood does not mean they are decent human beings who are worthy of your respect. Ignore, ignore, ignore. You're caught up in FOG, fear obligation guilt, but honestly you can just walk away. No one here will judge you for doing so they've obviously made your life a misery, why wait for them to die to be free.

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Pearlyclouds · 06/02/2024 13:49

You are not being selfish. Stay strong. You feel guilty because they make you feel guilty and thrive off that. Do not move closer. The distance will be a saviour to you.

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Seasaltsquall · 06/02/2024 13:49

There's an old saying that you can 'choose your friends but not your family'' I'd take heed of that. They are emotionally blackmailing you-don't let them. Just because they are family they have no right to ask of your help if they've undermined you in such an awful way. Put your boundaries in place (I'm sorry I am working XXX days etc...) and stick to them. Ask your DH for support.

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Windydaysandwetnights · 06/02/2024 13:49

Of course you aren't selfish. Block them both. Karma has come a calling hasn't it for them?
I and nc with dm and df. They can both die with me still nc imo.

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Eyesopenwideawake · 06/02/2024 13:51

We have a media driven idealised view of family; loving, mutually supportive, endlessly patient, yada, yada, yada.

The reality is often far more complex - a quick read of the Stately Homes thread is proof positive of that.

You know they won't change so why are you still engaging with them? Leave them to their own devices; the State will step in as as when needed. Crudely put you will be at peace when they're gone so work on the assumption that that day has been and gone already.

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AllEars112232 · 06/02/2024 14:07

You feel guilty because you are a caring, compassionate person. But in this situation your kindness is detrimental to your own self, and to your DH.
I'd suggest you tell them you will not under any circumstances be moving closer to them. Be crystal clear, do not offer a reason, or justify your decision. Remember, "no" is a complete sentence!
Then cut all contact. If you can't do that at least go very low contact.
But definitely get yourself back into counselling, you will need the support.

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macdui · 07/02/2024 10:07

Thank you so so much everyone 💗

Lots to think about.

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