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Elderly parents

LPA dilemma

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victormeldrewcantbelieveit · 12/11/2025 11:30

Looking for advice, please – this may be long!

My grandmother (DGM) is 81. The only family she has are me and her nephew (DGM’s late sister’s son). DGM and her DN had a very close relationship for most of DN’s life, but especially in the15 years since DGF passed and DN did a lot for DGM (and I know DGM had been particularly difficult and demanding at times). I don’t have the best relationship with DGM but try to stay in touch via messages and phone calls.

A few weeks ago, DGM got into a pickle with her online banking. She attempted to log in but had forgotten her password, and so was locked out, and the bank sent her a text saying they had stopped someone logging into her account.

DGM then decided that it must have been her DN trying to access her account (I am certain this is not the case and trust him implicitly). Without approaching the subject with DN, she took it upon herself to block DN from all forms of communication, made noises about changing the lock on her front door (DN was the only person allowed a key) and made an appointment with her solicitor to remove DN from her will. I then had to make a very unpleasant phone call to her DN, to clarify why DGM wasn’t answering any of his calls and what she had accused him of. After everything her DN has done for her over the past 15 years, I think DGM has treated him appallingly – he was heartbroken at being accused and in his words, DGM had acted as judge, jury and executioner without giving him any chance to discuss with her.

DN and DGM before this had a good relationship - DN has a heart of gold and is blessed with a hundred times more patience than I have. I struggle to be around DGM – whenever I am going to see her in person I have a pit in my stomach as you can never tell what mood she is going to be in – it’s like walking on eggshells. Over the past 30+ years I have known her, DGM has systematically cut everyone out from her life for little/no reason – friends, family, acquaintances. She hasn’t spoken to DN’s wife in over 13 years due to a disagreement about a holiday. She has quit hobbies at the drop of a hat just because she decides she doesn’t like someone else who attends. DGM has always been stubborn, headstrong, bullish and I don’t think she has ever apologised to anyone in her life and picks people up/drops them when it suits. I have been on the receiving end and have been cut out in the past for perceived slights.

I do however say the above in the context of believing there may currently be other factors at play that may be exacerbating her behaviour – I have wondered whether early dementia may have caused some paranoia-type feeling – her DN thinks it could be depression related (DGM has phases where she will lash out/withdraw for weeks/months at a time – this has been the case for decades).

I have tried to gently reason with DGM, suggesting that she may have input her banking details incorrectly (and said I have done the same, it's so easy to do, banks make it so difficult, etc. - so she didn't feel like I was attacking her), attempted to persuade her not to change her will on impulse, but she just ended up turning on me (and another member of my family who tried to speak to her). She went quiet for a while and then a couple of days later there would be another text message attack. I tried to call her to discuss the situation, but she screened all of my calls and immediately messaged me telling me to leave her alone.

She asked me if I would be willing to be executor in the new will (in place of her nephew). I told her I think it best if she appoints a solicitor to do this as due to the situation at present, it may get messy further down the line. I again tried to persuade her against removing her nephew from the will to no avail. She went to a solicitor appointment yesterday and messaged me yesterday evening asking if I would be LPA for her.

I'm torn - I don't want to end up being accused in the same way her nephew was (and he didn't even have LPA), particularly if I get involved in her financial affairs. At the same time, there is no-one else left in the family and I'd feel incredibly guilty saying no. Even before the LPA was discussed, my DH and another family member advised me against getting too tangled up with DGM as any time we have a relationship that is anything more than just surface-level and exchanging messages, my mental health takes a nosedive as she is so difficult and demanding.

I do appreciate that not having LPA in place may cause issues down the line - but I'm not sure I want to put myself potentially in the firing line by agreeing to be appointed.

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victormeldrewcantbelieveit · 15/11/2025 18:25

rickyrickygrimes · 15/11/2025 17:11

Oh dear @victormeldrewcantbelieveit , that sounds like a traumatic upbringing. Is your own father anywhere in this? You lost your mum at a young age: it’s normal for a child to try and attach themselves to other related adults - your grand parents. they seem to have been woefully unable to meet your needs. But you seem to be stuck in a pattern of trying to make them (her now) happy so that they will love you and look after you. I’m sorry they didn’t do that for you.

Whose expectations are you trying to live up to here? If it’s your own expectations of what a ‘good’ person or a ‘good’ granddaughter should do, feel free to change your mind on that at any time. Enlist the help of a therapist if you need to (you probably do). That’s the one bit that you can control because she sure as hell is not going to change.

what does your DH think about all this?

I am so tearful reading these replies - I actually came back on to say how guilty I felt for making such a character assassination on DGM (!)

Upbringing was v.v. traumatic - it took for a psychologist to point out to me earlier this year that what my parents put me though as a young child was physical, emotional and psychological abuse and neglect. I was seeing a therapist earlier this year for treatment for C-PTSD as a result of memories from my childhood.... DM and DF divorced when I was 11 and I lived with DM and her DP who was also abusive towards me. When DM died I went to live with DGM, as my DF wasn't in a place to take care of me (he went to prison shortly after DM died, he had been in and out of prison for most of my teens). DF overdosed a few days after getting released from prison for the final time, which was 10 months after DM died. His funeral was 2 days before my 18th birthday.

I definitely think my childhood has clouded my judgement to my own detriment - I probably do need a few more sessions in therapy! DH is very much of the opinion that I'm too hard on myself and I need to stop feeling guilty, especially when DGM has such an effect on me. Any interaction with her these days brings on anxiety - just her presence is triggering.

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REP22 · 15/11/2025 18:36

Bless you @victormeldrewcantbelieveit - you bear no guilt at all. None whatsoever. You have been kinder and more generous in your words to your GM than she deserves. I'm sorry for the deeply shitty experiences you have had to endure. You sound like a really lovely person.

I'd put all feelings of guilt and obligation for your GM on a little raft, cut the rope, and watch them drift away downstream forever, never to be endured again, while you stand proud and tall on the bank waving them off. But that's far, far easier to write than to actually do.

I hope you have freedom and happiness in the future. The world is a far better place because you are alive in it, and despite the misery that your mediocre relatives have heaped upon you over the years.

With love. x

rickyrickygrimes · 16/11/2025 12:38

@victormeldrewcantbelieveit

none of what happened to you was your fault and you don’t have to ‘make up’ for anything. You had the bad luck to be born into a family of seriously damaged adults, none of whom was capable of caring for you as you needed. You don’t have anything to prove here.

You will have to come to a decision yourself, but for what it’s worth: drop the rope and walk away. You owe her nothing. Focus on your own family and your own healing. Listen to what your body is telling you every time you are in touch with her: run, and don’t look back. And I hardly ever say that on here! If you are not able to set and enforce boundaries to protect yourself, then this is going to drown you.

I sent her a message yesterday saying I was still considering the LPA, either the financial and property or the health and welfare one. I also asked her to consider applying for attendance allowance again, and made it clear that I'm not in a position to provide anywhere near the level of assistance DN did, due to DD and DS/health/work/not driving, and that attendance allowance would enable her to pay for help (she has mobility issues so I think she would qualify). This was my attempt at trying to put some boundaries in place but she has made is clear today she's not particularly happy with the message I sent.
Where’s the boundary here? Boundaries are for you, not her. A boundary is you telling her what you are prepared to do and not do - it’s not you asking her to please consider doing xzy, not you asking her to be aware of and understanding of your time / energy limitations. You can’t make her do any of these things. Boundaries are rules that you put in place, for yourself and to protect yourself. Whether she approves or disapproves is irrelevant, it’s really not about her.

Are there any financial ties keeping you connected with her? Are you expecting to inherit?

Why is she even asking you to be LPA? Does she think it will oblige you to take on an active caring role? It really doesn’t have to. How do you think solicitors or LPAs living in a different country do it’s? By sticking strictly to what it’s actually designed for. Again, boundaries.

victormeldrewcantbelieveit · 16/11/2025 15:31

REP22 · 15/11/2025 18:36

Bless you @victormeldrewcantbelieveit - you bear no guilt at all. None whatsoever. You have been kinder and more generous in your words to your GM than she deserves. I'm sorry for the deeply shitty experiences you have had to endure. You sound like a really lovely person.

I'd put all feelings of guilt and obligation for your GM on a little raft, cut the rope, and watch them drift away downstream forever, never to be endured again, while you stand proud and tall on the bank waving them off. But that's far, far easier to write than to actually do.

I hope you have freedom and happiness in the future. The world is a far better place because you are alive in it, and despite the misery that your mediocre relatives have heaped upon you over the years.

With love. x

This is the loveliest message and so appreciated - thank you so very much! I mean that, truly.

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victormeldrewcantbelieveit · 16/11/2025 15:32

rickyrickygrimes · 16/11/2025 12:38

@victormeldrewcantbelieveit

none of what happened to you was your fault and you don’t have to ‘make up’ for anything. You had the bad luck to be born into a family of seriously damaged adults, none of whom was capable of caring for you as you needed. You don’t have anything to prove here.

You will have to come to a decision yourself, but for what it’s worth: drop the rope and walk away. You owe her nothing. Focus on your own family and your own healing. Listen to what your body is telling you every time you are in touch with her: run, and don’t look back. And I hardly ever say that on here! If you are not able to set and enforce boundaries to protect yourself, then this is going to drown you.

I sent her a message yesterday saying I was still considering the LPA, either the financial and property or the health and welfare one. I also asked her to consider applying for attendance allowance again, and made it clear that I'm not in a position to provide anywhere near the level of assistance DN did, due to DD and DS/health/work/not driving, and that attendance allowance would enable her to pay for help (she has mobility issues so I think she would qualify). This was my attempt at trying to put some boundaries in place but she has made is clear today she's not particularly happy with the message I sent.
Where’s the boundary here? Boundaries are for you, not her. A boundary is you telling her what you are prepared to do and not do - it’s not you asking her to please consider doing xzy, not you asking her to be aware of and understanding of your time / energy limitations. You can’t make her do any of these things. Boundaries are rules that you put in place, for yourself and to protect yourself. Whether she approves or disapproves is irrelevant, it’s really not about her.

Are there any financial ties keeping you connected with her? Are you expecting to inherit?

Why is she even asking you to be LPA? Does she think it will oblige you to take on an active caring role? It really doesn’t have to. How do you think solicitors or LPAs living in a different country do it’s? By sticking strictly to what it’s actually designed for. Again, boundaries.

Where’s the boundary here? Boundaries are for you, not her. A boundary is you telling her what you are prepared to do and not do - it’s not you asking her to please consider doing xzy, not you asking her to be aware of and understanding of your time / energy limitations. You can’t make her do any of these things. Boundaries are rules that you put in place, for yourself and to protect yourself. Whether she approves or disapproves is irrelevant, it’s really not about her.

This is a fair point – I’d not thought about it in that way!

Are there any financial ties keeping you connected with her? Are you expecting to inherit?

I think I’m in the will but I’d be more than willing to give that all up if it meant I can have a peaceful life going forward.

Why is she even asking you to be LPA? Does she think it will oblige you to take on an active caring role? It really doesn’t have to. How do you think solicitors or LPAs living in a different country do it’s? By sticking strictly to what it’s actually designed for. Again, boundaries.
Yes I think so. I think now DN is out of the frame she will expect me to pick up where he left off (which I have tried to make clear I won’t) and I think me also being LPA would form part of that.

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victormeldrewcantbelieveit · 16/11/2025 15:36

As I mentioned, I messaged her yesterday telling her I would consider being medical or property LPA, but suggested she applied for attendance allowance as I can't offer her the same level of assistance and DN did - I also added at the end of the message that I can't tell her what to put in her will, but that she should seriously consider before cutting DN from the will as he has been her go-fer for the past 15 years and cutting him out may cause ill-feeling down the line.

Her response was that that she didn't like me threatening her with ill-feeling and it was nasty for me to do so (!) that she no longer wanted me as Power of Attorney, and that maybe now 'she can get some peace of mind'. I'm at a loss for words really.

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user90276865197 · 16/11/2025 15:51

Good grief, do not under any circumstances agree to be POA!
I’ve done it a few times now, some close relatives, others as a more distant relationship and it’s quite a responsibility to take on. Do not agree to do this for anyone who is “difficult” would be my sincere advice. There was no expectation of me doing any physical caring for my relatives, but it seems to me you are being set up to be no 1 carer.
She can get her solicitor to do it for finances, at a cost. And the health one is not so essential and I never found anyone asked about that one so much, the medics opinion always seemed to be enough.

She needs a POA sorting, it is so much easier when it is in place, but it doesn’t have to be you. You’ve seen what happens to others that cross her, you will no doubt be next, and if you’re holding her money in your hands you’ll be accused of all sorts. If it’s her solicitor or similar professional in charge, they will at least have no personal gain and immaculate records to prove their trustworthiness. Hopefully!

PermanentTemporary · 16/11/2025 16:05

Oh victor it sounds as if you have absolutely dodged a bullet there. I’d take that as a win. I think if she comes back to you about it just laugh and say she really doesn’t treat people well enough to ask them to do that kind of thing.

rickyrickygrimes · 16/11/2025 17:42

You’re expected to behave well enough that she’ll graciously accept you to be her POA?? 🤣😂🤣

Deary me, that’s your cue to exit stage left, a spring in your step.

Rubinia · 17/11/2025 07:10

im so glad you can drop this rope now! I’m sorry for all the things you went through! You deserve all peace and happiness.

REP22 · 17/11/2025 13:55

Ah, well that's that then. Out of her own mouth. Let her enjoy the rewards of her choices while you move on in peace and future happiness. Freedom.

Sorry that you've had to endure all this. Can you arrange some time with your DN and enjoy each other's company in your new-found liberty? x

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