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Elderly parents

Help dealing with depression and anxiety or onset of dementia

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andypandy13 · 17/12/2024 23:42

Hi apologies in advance for the long post... I am really struggling with how to deal with my mum (82 years young). I lost my dad and mums husband almost 4 years ago during covid after a long period of deteriorating health. In 2019 my dad was aware my mother was struggling to look after him (they both refused carers) following a long hospital admission he made the decision himself that he wanted to go into a care home. My mum took this quite hard at first but realised she had not been coping, not having to worry about my dad 24/7 I saw a different side to her. At first she visited my dad every day sometimes twice a day, but as time went on these visits reduced to once or twice per week when she knew dad was doing ok. My dad was calling the bingo, playing cards and dominos and his mobility improved massively. Then Covid hit and we were not allowed to see him, he quickly deteriorated and passed away in April 2020.
Mum took his death really hard but in time she started to pick herself up, she managed ok for a couple of years she had her two dogs which became the focus of her life. Then in April 23 one of her beloved dogs died, this is when I noticed the biggest change in her far more than after my dad’s passing. She wanted to move house as she saw the dog everywhere. In the past year though she still talked about moving, but started to talk about some home improvements she would like to make. Roll on to November 2024 and my brother started to fit a new bathroom for her. This has been fraught with problems and the work is still ongoing. This has caused so much stress for my mum and she is regretting him starting the work.
What I say next is a culmination of life events but would appreciate some advice on how best to approach the situation. My mum has become very pessimistic, she worries about everything, too's and fro;s about what she wants, critiques everything anyone says with the exception of a few (myself getting the brunt of it), keeps forgetting things, having trouble with sleep and tiredness through the day. I have tried to get her to go to the doctor but she refuses. All of the above are causes for concern but the biggest red flag for me is she wants to spend Xmas alone, when last year even though she had lost dad and her dog, she actively participate in Xmas, was happy shopping for presents, attending Xmas Eve Carols and being with the family for Xmas day. This year she has said she cannot wait for the festive period to be over, she does not want to spend any time over the period with family and wants to spend Xmas on her own. Whilst I want to respect her wishes this is very out of character for her and I am really worried. Not sure if this is depression and anxiety given everything she has been through or the start of dementia. Would appreciate advice on how to handle this from anyone who has been in a similar situation. She is refusing to see a GP

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BlueLegume · 18/12/2024 07:56

@andypandy13 sympathy with you and also watching this thread for any advice. Flowers

AInightingale · 18/12/2024 09:47

Indecisiveness and what you call 'to -ing and fro-ing' and forgetting things are early indicators of dementia, I'm afraid. This is obviously the greatest fear of any person in their 80s and there may be a degree of denial which comes across as a desire to self-isolate. Is there a history of dementia in her family?

Orangesandlemons77 · 18/12/2024 10:06

Could be part of the grieving process her wanting not to do Christmas this year? Sometimes it is a hard day for those who have lost someone.

Gagagardener · 18/12/2024 10:22

I'm 75. She's had a tough time. And she has things to be depressed about. It can be a reasonable response to life events and it seems to me she needs to be allowed to try her own ideas of what is appropriate for her just now.

Respect her wishes. She is tired of 'Christmas' as it now is. By giving her space and removing the pressure, you are not abandoning her.

You mention carol services, which implies at least a background of Christian faith. Perhaps she wants to reflect on her life and how to live out what remains of her own. Tell her that, if she changes her mind, she can join you. Check that she has food in etc.

Then, when Xmas is over, see how she is and get her to the GP.

Well done for being a caring daughter. Best wishes.

andypandy13 · 19/12/2024 20:53

AInightingale · 18/12/2024 09:47

Indecisiveness and what you call 'to -ing and fro-ing' and forgetting things are early indicators of dementia, I'm afraid. This is obviously the greatest fear of any person in their 80s and there may be a degree of denial which comes across as a desire to self-isolate. Is there a history of dementia in her family?

I don't think there is any denial as she has raised concerns about her memory and has openly said she is worried about having dementia. I also don't think she is isolating as whilst she wants to be on her own for Xmas she does complain about being on her own too much which is what is confusing me. She accepted an invite from a neighbour for a single/widowed get together which was unusual for her but she really enjoyed it. I have had the last couple of days off work and she has been much better and was keen to spend as much time together as possible (I offered to go shopping for her but she wanted to come to "get out of the house" and we have been for lunch both days together (her suggestion). She loves being with me but I get the sense she feels she doesn't get the same attention from me when we are all together as a family. My son and daughter in law have recently had a baby, this is the only change from last year. She has said whilst she does not want to come for Xmas she expects to see me on Xmas day and if I don't have the time because I am hosting she will get my brother to come and spend time with her. There is no history of dementia in her family.

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catndogslife · 21/12/2024 14:26

I am in a similar position with my DM OP. She also worries a lot, has disrupted sleep etc. and I cannot decide whether it's extended grief or the onset of dementia either. (Her mother did develop dementia, but it did not present in this way, so I cannot be sure).
I don't live close enough to offer the level of support that you do, it could be that she doesn't like any form of change - my DM likes to be the centre of attention and a new baby would be a big change as far as she is concerned.
I would say to keep on doing what you are doing for now, but try to balance things out with the other members of your family too.

EmotionalBlackmail · 21/12/2024 14:54

Mine has similar traits. She wants my attention so doesn't like it if other people take up my time (even if those other people are my DH or my child!). I don't think it would ever be enough for her, even if I did give up work and my own family!

It makes me sad that she competes with her grandchildren for my attention instead of enjoying time with them.

andypandy13 · 24/12/2024 21:26

EmotionalBlackmail · 21/12/2024 14:54

Mine has similar traits. She wants my attention so doesn't like it if other people take up my time (even if those other people are my DH or my child!). I don't think it would ever be enough for her, even if I did give up work and my own family!

It makes me sad that she competes with her grandchildren for my attention instead of enjoying time with them.

Thank you for your reply its good to know its not just me. I have offered to look after my grandson on my day off when his mum goes back to work i October and worried about telling my mother given her current mood so will probably put it off as long as i can.

Good news is she has agreed for me to put up a Xmas dinner and take it too her

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