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AIBU for not wanting to visit my dysfunctional family more than once a year?

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Heffylump · 15/07/2024 09:27

My sister and mother both put me under massive pressure to contribute more time to caring for my father, who has dementia. On an almost daily basis, my sister sends me lengthy ‘updates’ - which are actually lists of every single thing she does for my parents. She will literally tell me if she made my father a sandwich or gave my mother a lift to the shops. I am at the point where I feel so guilty and so anxious that it’s having the opposite effect – I don’t want to pick up the phone or visit because all I get is abuse or manipulation and guilt-tripping.

Here’s the thing(s):

  • I don’t live in the same country as my family. My sister moved to live 5 minutes up the road from my parents when her kids were small (they are both over 18 now and independent). They provided childcare and babysitting. Every trip ‘home’ for me takes 24 hours of travel and costs a minimum of 1500 euros. I was there for two weeks in March and between lost earnings and travel costs, I can’t afford it again this year but no one is listening and they just expect me to go over 3 or 4 times a year. For the past few years, I have used all my annual leave on trips there. I have not taken a holiday myself since 2020. My partner now goes on her own/with friends.
  • My parents are/were abusive narcissists. My mother is an alcoholic and I grew up in a household where I was scapegoated for every little thing. My mother used to hit me, and continued doing so until I was in my 20s. She was emotionally cruel. My sister has physically and verbally attacked me on multiple occasions in the past. All of this informs how they talk to me today. Everything is framed as being my fault, my selfishness, me not doing my bit. When I go over, I have to sleep on the couch because my mother insists on having every radio and TV in the house on full volume, 24/7. She is abusive towards my father and, any time I stay, she just uses the opportunity to get as drunk as possible, as early as possible in the day.
  • My sister goes through phases of calling/texting me at 2/3am, leaving a mixture of incredibly abusive messages or manipulative “I can’t do this on my own” messages. A couple of years ago, she did this while with my parents, was too drunk to hang up properly, and I listened for 30 minutes while all three of them eviscerated me and said terrible things about me. This incident has been hanging over me ever since. I feel destroyed by the hurt.
  • On the advice of his GP, we moved my father into residential care in March. I went over to organise everything, from the paperwork to the funding applications etc. After a month, my sister and mother took him out of there and brought him back to his home. Both admit that the quality of care he was receiving was excellent (he was way healthier after a few weeks there), they just wanted him home. Not long afterwards, the complaints about how hard it is re-commenced. I organised for a carer to visit a few hours a day to help out but this was rejected.

Every time my phone pings, my stomach lurches. I am afraid of my sister, but don’t have the confidence to ask them to leave me alone. She is in ‘love bomb’ mode at the moment but I can’t trust it. These are not people you can have an honest, reasonable conversation with. I am trying my best to help with the things that I can help with – I make calls, I do paperwork and I am trying to organise residential care again.

I know I am about to be put under intense pressure to ‘come home’ for a couple of weeks in August/Sept. I don’t know what to do. The last time I went over, I came back in such a mess that I started therapy. My sister is love bombing me right now, so I just feel guilty for not wanting to go over there. There is very little more than I can actively do to help. I understand now that she is CHOOSING to be this heavily involved with their care. I keep giving them options but the only one they seem to want is for me to ‘do my share’ and be physically present.

I am struggling to accept myself and that I am not doing anything wrong. I just want them to leave me alone. I read posts in places like this where I see sisters complaining about siblings who aren’t helping and I feel devastated and wonder if I am this awful person.

I am wondering if anyone else has similar experience and understands where I’m at. People are so quick to judge but they don’t know the full story.

Long post. I just needed to write it down. And maybe find some kind of validation. When I write this all down, I can see how toxic it is. So why do I feel so guilty?

Anyone else in a similar situation? Any advice for managing it?

OP posts:
Okitsme · 15/07/2024 10:22

You need to let them go. You have done so much for them, they have rejected it and so it is time to block them and remove them from your life. All they have given you is abuse, you owe them nothing. Please realise that you will never be able to get their love, they are very damaged. Leave them to it, live your best life.

TenderChicken · 15/07/2024 10:33

You'd be well within your rights to cut them out of your life based on how they've treated you.

If you're not ready to do that, you need to put in some HEAVY boundaries to perserve your mental health. It's fine to have contact once a week, or once a month.

Just for some comparison - my dad moved in with my sister as he was struggling financially, and now his health is declining. I live abroad and so can't help at all. She doesn't give me any shit about that.

ABeaver8MyThumb · 15/07/2024 10:46

I'm sorry you're in this situation. Your parents obviously did the typical narcissist golden child/scapegoat dynamic with you and your sister, with you getting the blame for everything. Your sister benefitted from living near them when they were younger and healthier, and now the time has come when that is no longer the case, she wants to rope you back into the family to share the burden when you dont appear to have reaped any of the benefit in your younger years. You aren't obliged to help out. You don't owe them anything. If they are struggling, they are free to put your father back into residential care. It is their decision not to.
I think you need to work out your boundaries, what you are prepared to do, and stick to that. Don't engage beyond that. Remind yourself that it's your sister's choice on what she offers, but not what you offer.
I know it's easier said than done not to care what they think of you, but you don't have to pick up the phone or reply to messages. You were raised in a toxic family and you aren't a bad person for refusing to be drawn back into it now you're an adult.

Startingagainandagain · 15/07/2024 11:47

You need to stop letting them try to control and wreck your life and put yourself and your mental health first.

They are trying to guilt trip you into coming back...

I would actually go no contact with them.

Parents who did not care for you when you were a child cannot expect you to care form them in return.

It is your sister's choice to get so heavily involved. You don't have to do the same.

They were foolish to remove your father from the home where he was well cared for and now they need to live with the consequences.

BlueLegume · 16/07/2024 09:11

@Heffylump awful situation I really feel for you. No advice above what has been said and FOG recommended by @chairsaregreen is an excellent resource. The hard bit is overcoming the fear, obligation and guilt. Also as a previous poster said no one is asking your sister to do the things she is. She is choosing to do so. Flowers

AtrociousCircumstance · 16/07/2024 09:16

Block them, and feel no guilt.

Slugsandsnailsresidehere · 16/07/2024 09:19

As they say when you're on an aircraft "put your own oxygen mask on first before helping others"
She's love bombing you now because she wants you to take over. Don't fall for it.
Text your DSis with the list of what you did for them and the stuff they unpicked and now can't cope with
They could book DF into respite care if they wanted to
Do not offer to help because you're damned if you do and damned if you don't
Tell them you can't afford to come over more than once a year.
Then block them.

LennyBalls · 16/07/2024 09:19

I had a similar situation to yours OP and with counselling it enabled me to let them go and stop feeling guilty. My parents have both passed now and I am no contact with my brother and sister. Never been happier. The guilt was eating me up as they have issues but counselling made me realise there's nothing I can do to help them and not to be their stooge for abuse.

EmotionalBlackmail · 16/07/2024 09:31

What I've learnt from this board is that we all have choices and we can't make another person take on caring responsibilities.

Your family sounds truly awful. Your sister has benefitted a lot from close proximity to your parents but it's still her choice how much she does for them. And that's for her to decide and organise.

Can you put in some boundaries - if you're using a mobile use the 'do not disturb' feature so calls and messages from them can only get through at certain times! I've found that immensely helpful as it means they're not invading my brain space and upsetting me most of the time.

If you are in contact with them, keep a list on your phone/computer of what you did do - the finding the home, carer etc and copy and paste that back to them in response to more 'updates'.

And book a holiday with your partner!

hattie43 · 16/07/2024 09:33

Don't feel guilty . Leave them to it . They'd have to be absolutely stupid to not realise their behaviour has changed your loyalty to them .

tsmainsqueeze · 16/07/2024 09:35

This is upsetting to read, you owe your awful family nothing , one visit a year achieves very little i imagine other than distress to yourself so maybe the time has come to detach and cut them all off .
After they die do you intend to continue a relationship with your sister ? don't think i could after what you say ,if you don't then what have you got to lose?
You aren't going to be able to do right for doing wrong however you go about things so maybe the time has come to do the best for yourself.
They are the masters of their own downfall and they have no right to drag you down into it also.
If your sister chooses this life thats up to her , there was already a better situation for your dad that she messed up ,leave them to it.

ageratum1 · 16/07/2024 09:37

You are being ilvery unfair on them.Tje very least you could do is contribute to paid for care to take a little of the burden off your family

GoldFrame · 16/07/2024 09:38

It sounds awful @Heffylump . My family was also very difficult. For many years I got daily calls with the latest disaster, my XH and o called it updates from the House of Doom!

I think you should block your sister. No one needs that constant barrage of misery. And set firm boundaries. This book is brilliant.

Sad as it is, and despite all your efforts, you can’t help or change them. Don’t feel obliged to go over. If you do go, limit time with them. Try to stop feeling guilty, you have no reason to. It’s them, not you

AIBU for not wanting to visit my dysfunctional family more than once a year?
BlueLegume · 16/07/2024 09:38

@ageratum1 really? Have you read the original post, and more importantly have you understood the original poster and the context around the situation?

tsmainsqueeze · 16/07/2024 09:40

ageratum1 · 16/07/2024 09:37

You are being ilvery unfair on them.Tje very least you could do is contribute to paid for care to take a little of the burden off your family

What ? !!!!!!!

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 16/07/2024 09:42

I would probably have a stock phrase if you feel you need to reply. Something like 'Sounds like it is time that he goes into a care home so he can get professional care.' use the same phrase every time because that is what you think will be best for him. It saves you needing to spend any time thinking about the reply.

EmotionalBlackmail · 16/07/2024 09:43

ageratum1 · 16/07/2024 09:37

You are being ilvery unfair on them.Tje very least you could do is contribute to paid for care to take a little of the burden off your family

Have you read the original post?!

Makethisrainstop · 16/07/2024 09:47

Your sister benefitted from free childcare . Now the tables have turned . As you reap , so shall you sow . This is how life works.

Cantalever · 16/07/2024 09:49

Why don't you go NC given the past abuse? You won't find any peace until you separate yourself from your toxic family dynamic. If your DF has dementia and goes back to residential care, you could still visit him occasionally without having to see your DM and Dsis. Seriously, you should get out of that family, for self-preservation.

ImperfectAlf · 16/07/2024 09:52

Sounds like the sister has arrived.

OP, when you have spent your life being'in the wrong', it's very hard to believe that it's not your fault. From what you've said, it would be difficult to avoid the pull of your first family. So, how do you cope, practically, with the demands?

I would disengage. Google the grey rock technique. Mute the contact in your phone so you can see /hear when you have the mental capacity for it.

I would also not go to see them more often. Sometimes you just have to drop the rope

PaleSunshineOfHope · 16/07/2024 10:16

I'm surprised you are even in contact with them, to be honest.

Heffylump · 16/07/2024 10:27

Thanks very much to everyone who gave such kind and supportive responses, also to those of you who shared advice / further reading. It's amazing how hard it can be to do something that you know is right, even when you recognise what a mess it is. It's also good to hear from people who've been in the same situation. I really appreciate the kind words, thank you.

OP posts:
Coldupnorth87 · 16/07/2024 10:28

Change your number, block the emails and go to therapy more.

You're an adult. You have control of your relationships and do not have to take this abuse anymore.

You put in the structure you needed to make it work for everyone, they dismantled it, so it's now their problem.

Your sister has a choice too.

I'm probably more in the role of your sister but it's my choice and I really do not "waft burning martyr" at my other siblings, who are busy and have their own lives.

DollyBelle · 16/07/2024 10:39

OP if you had a loving mother and a caring sister who was genuinely breaking from caring duties, then you would be genuinely okay to feel a bit torn.
By removing your dad from a place where he was receiving good care back into this hellhole, they are the ones who should feel torn.
You have been abused as a child and an adult by your mum and she sounds like she has no desire to change.
Your sister sadly is like her captive - she comes to you for attention but reverts to your mother and her nastiness to feel validated.
I do feel for you over your dad but there are other people better placed to deal with this, who can better judge his care needs.
Overhearing that conversation is a red flag on fire - you are not there to be further abused. I can understand why you moved abroad.
What if you needed help with something? Would your mum and sister support you?
NC is really tough and it might feel too much right now. But you should no longer allow yourself to be treated like this.
Go on holiday with your partner. Live your life.
And while you don’t need to feel sorry for your sister, she’s trapped in this family system now.
You aren’t. You got out of it with very good reason.
You get one life, as we all do, and it’s time to put in place major boundaries.

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