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Elderly parents

Mum ill in care home. Residents keep coming in and won't go away

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Mxflamingnoravera · 04/06/2024 21:43

M sitting with my 86 year old mum in her care home. She has a chest infection. She is asleep. Other residents keep coming in and won't leave. Staff are struggling to get them out.
They've got them out now, but I'm scared to leave her because they are going through her stuff and keep coming back.
I need to go to pick up her emergency prescription.
There's no lock on her door so I can't lock it with us both in it.
It's a dementia care unit. What do I do? I'm wishing I'd said yes to hospital admission now when I spoke to a Dr from the emergency card team.
I've never been here at night. I'd be terrified if it were me sick in bed and people kept wandering in and out.

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Helengreggregson · 08/06/2024 23:32

Saytheyhear · 08/06/2024 22:05

It is an awful reality in the UK that dementia units are extremely scary places. Patients are not in control of their own minds so violence of all kinds are not unheard of. The alternative is that patients relatives are to care for them in their own home but this is often an equally vulnerable and elderly spouse which is just so unrealistic.

Some homes support respite at home. So family can take residents home for weekends if they can provide care for the few days. Others support residents relatives staying overnight, particularly during the last few days etc.

Discuss the options, see if there is a way to pay for a private 1.2.1 carer in addition to her current care package. Just to give you peace of mind at night.

Yes I agree and I have worked in care homes so I understand how difficult it is for the staff. It is enevitable that this will occur sometimes. However they still need to manage privacy for clients who are vulnerable and need it. They need to have staff available to ensure other residents aren’t barging into peoples rooms frequently . I know there aren’t enough staff to man the doors, but if it reaches a stage where a clients privacy is being invaded frequently they do need to mitigate this. I wouldn’t feel bad complaining because it highlights how unacceptable the situation is and how they need to have more staff in place.

Mazpaz · 09/06/2024 08:44

What are the staff doing allowing this to happen . They should know when service users are up and ensuring they are guided back to there room. Or sat in a safe place with staff . You need to speak to someone about this
hope your mum recovers quickly
take care

NamingConundrum · 09/06/2024 09:07

Mazpaz · 09/06/2024 08:44

What are the staff doing allowing this to happen . They should know when service users are up and ensuring they are guided back to there room. Or sat in a safe place with staff . You need to speak to someone about this
hope your mum recovers quickly
take care

A dementia floor is basically a floor of toddlers. They sneak into places you don't expect, do not stay where you left them, and anywhere you tell them not to go is the number 1 place they want to be and have a tantrum if you try remove them. Staff have to manage this on top of medical needs.

Keepthosenamesgoing · 09/06/2024 09:20

Honestly the care staff sound good and the pilfering and wandering unfortunately just a side effect of where she is.
You sound exhausted OP and it must have been so scary and emotional that day. Hope you are getting some R&R

Mxflamingnoravera · 09/06/2024 13:29

In fairness to the staff on Tuesday night, they were trying to manage mums privacy, the clinical lead was taking mums observations and the other two were doing their level best to distract and persuade the visitors to leave. When one of them pulled back mum's duvet and plonked themselves on her bed they physically grabbed the woman and marched her out and it was in my view entirely appropriate to do that.

I might talk to the social worker who does mums annual DOLs review, she seems very knowledgeable and keen to ensure that mum is safe and her needs are met.

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Mxflamingnoravera · 09/06/2024 20:20

@Keepthosenamesgoing I am exhausted, I still work (4 days a week) and I have chronic back pain. I also look after (albeit from a distance and much less involvement) my mum's 64 year old sister who does not have dementia but has anxiety disorder and is on the phone constantly telling me the same stuff over and over again. I'm also in the middle of selling my house because I cannot manage it any longer because of my back. I sleep well, but rarely feel rested. I have a lot on my plate! 😁

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