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Elderly parents

When should my parents downsize?

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wendyoz · 27/03/2024 03:26

My parents: Mum 84 with mobility issues plus undiagnosed dementia, probably stage 4 and my Dad also 84 , still ressonably fit and able currently live in the 4 bed family house. It's fairly remote between villages and is unsuitable long term as both bathrooms are upstairs. Mum refuses to see a doctor as she is terrified of being 'taken into care'. They muddle along but it's becoming increasingly apparent the house/garden is too big/remote for them esp if my Dad loses his licence. Mum refuses to move or accept any kind of help ( including gardeners !) Dad does all the shopping, cleaning cooking , house/garden maintenance for a quiet life as she can get really angry/aggressive with him. He is getting overwhelmed/exhausted.
My question is, when should they downsize..before or after she (eventually) goes into care. He is worried that if he downsizes after she goes into care, he will have to start paying for her care fees immediately and will thereby not have enough money from the sale without using some of her proceeds to buy a 2 bed bungalow somewhere. But as she refuses to acknowledge there are problems, he may have little choice. They are tenants in common and have less than 25k in savings between them. The house is worth approx 550k, (275k each) a 2 bed bungalow would cost 350k. Would it be prudent to try and downsize before her inevitable move into care? It's further complicated by the fact they are in the UK, and I am their only child, based in Australia. I have tried researching it on Age Concern but haven't found a clear answer. Any advice, gratefully received. Thank you.

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countrygirl99 · 28/03/2024 10:16

MereDintofPandiculation · 28/03/2024 09:17

A user friendly home doesn’t guarantee no falls. They’d have probably ended up in a care home anyway. My dad could fall over while standing in the middle of a room. He never fell on the stairs

Same as my dad. Bungalow and even the area he lived in was a flat area of the country but he was forever falling.

countrygirl99 · 28/03/2024 10:19

rookiemere · 28/03/2024 09:19

You can't force them to move.
We were delighted when - about 10 years ago when DPs in their 70s - they bought an additional property of a small 2 bed apartment near the hospital. Thought they had it all planned out and meant to downsize from their 4 bed detached property in the outskirts , when the time came.
But no it was for renting out only, DF says their own property is small enough Grin. Thankfully they are still just about managing in their property, but their lives would be so much easier in the apartment.

Being near a hospital doesn't mean your treatment will be there. More and more there are regional specialist centres. I know someone who is having to take her dad to Oxford from Milton Keynes for his cancer appointments. He lives 5 minutes walk from MK hospital but he might as well be in the back of beyond.

lifeonapersiancarpet · 28/03/2024 10:32

** "Mum refuses to move "

You have your answer, unfortunately.

polkadot24 · 29/03/2024 05:14

Growlybear83 · 27/03/2024 10:59

Are you serious? Mid 60s isn't old, and I think it's really insulting to have suggested to your in laws that they should downsize.

I'm 66 and my husband is 69. I'm still working almost full time. We have a five bedroom house and a large garden, and the thought of us needing to downsize has never crossed my mind. We have talked about moving out of London in the future when I'm no longer working, but we certainly wouldn't be looking at buying a smaller house.

I most certainly don't consider myself, or my husband, to be elderly. Our garden is better now than it ever has been, and the house is probably at its best in the 35 years we've lived here because my husband has the time to spend on maintenance and decorating now that he doesn't work. I can't imagine how insulted I would feel if our daughter suggested that we should downsize because we've reached our 60s!

Mid 60s doesn't equal well and healthy for some people though...

FiveShelties · 29/03/2024 08:40

polkadot24 · 29/03/2024 05:14

Mid 60s doesn't equal well and healthy for some people though...

No it does not, but for many people, especially if still working, would be horrified at the thought of downsizing in their mid 60s.

MereDintofPandiculation · 29/03/2024 09:45

Thankfully they are still just about managing in their property, but their lives would be so much easier in the apartment. There are different aspects of “easy”. If I stopped running my music group because 8 people playing instruments in a flat is not fair on neighbours, stopped gardening because I had no garden, stopped my other main hobby because I hadn’t enough room to leave my microscopes out on a table, stopped my voluntary work because I hadn’t enough space for the equipment and paperwork, my life would feel far from easy.

LawrieForShepherdsBoy · 30/03/2024 18:12

countrygirl99 · 27/03/2024 07:57

If she has dementia moving is likely to make it worse.

Absolutely this

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 30/03/2024 18:20

MereDintofPandiculation · 27/03/2024 15:16

The time to downsize is I think in your early 70's at the latest. Packing up your entire life and dealing with the disruption, the inevitable new home wrangles/refurb etc and giving away many of your life's acquired possessions is not for someone in their mid 80's. My life depends on having storage space for my activities, a big room for my music group to play in, a big garden because gardening is important to me, and because I’m used to growing my own produce including stuff I can’t easily buy. I’m not ready to limit my life yet.

DGM sold her house, threw out practically all her stuff bar a few bits of furniture and clothes and emigrated to Australia in her 80s; although I concede she might be a bit of an outlier as far as eighty-ish year olds are concerned.

T00thbrushPack · 05/04/2024 06:33

They could downsize to somewhere smaller, perhaps a flat or a bungalow

Then they would have spare cash to buy in help

I suggest that both your parents apply for attendance allowance. It is not means tested & can help to pay for taxis to appointments, day centre, help in home, any help that they require

Or
Stay where they are & apply for attendance allowance for both of them

Riverlee · 05/04/2024 06:39

I also think it’s too late. You need to go down the carers route. Also get mobility aids, grab rails etc

Be warned, there may be done resistance at first - don’t want to seen as getting old, intrusion of people coming into the house etc (speaking from experience). Also consider wrist/necklace panic alarm.

Also see uf adukt social services can help providing grab rails etc

Have you applied for Attendance Allowance for them?

T00thbrushPack · 05/04/2024 09:06

What will happen if one sadly passes away ?

Will the remaining person be able to live alone ?

That is when the status quo changes

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