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Elderly parents

How much time to spend with her?

12 replies

MmedeGouge · 25/02/2024 15:09

My mother who is in her early nineties has reluctantly stopped driving. This has also coincided with her losing her local, life long friends. (They died). And has created something of a crisis in our lives.

She lives alone but fairly close to me.

She has decided that she will only eat ready meals as she does not enjoy her own cooking.

Previously she would have spent a lot of time popping out shopping, food shopping then cooking and eating.

Also regular trips to the library.

Suddenly she feels the days are dragging.

This is where I come in.

Everyday she expects some kind of entertainment from me.

I work part time, I look after 3 grandchildren afterschool for a couple of hours and a toddler one day a week. I have an adult child at home, he is no trouble.

My husband often suggests trips out but I feel I can’t leave my mother out as she sulks a bit and he is getting rather fed up of being in a threesome.

My mother is capable of enjoying TV and reading. She goes out to a couple of old folks clubs a week.

She has an event of some kind every day for at least a couple of hours, usually with me. She has a brief visit everyday from one or other of her grand children.

I have suggested she uses taxis to go out on her own, but she prefers not to.

Still she complains that the days drag.

I feel guilty that I need my own time and space. I suppose I am asking how much time is it fair to make her spend on her own?

She has a lovely house and garden, she is capable of light housework and gardening, which she tackles with relish .

She just doesn’t like being alone for long periods.

An old people’s home or sheltered housing has been dismissed by her as being full of old people!

The young keep me young she is fond of saying, but spending so much time with her is making me feel every one of my 56 years!

I just wanted opinions really? How much time is she justified in expecting from me?

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DorothyZ · 25/02/2024 15:10

I just would be your usual?

Daffodilgill · 25/02/2024 15:12

You've got your own life to live. Hours per day is way too much in my opinion. I'd be visiting twice a week in your position.

AllEars112232 · 25/02/2024 17:44

Have you looked at Ageuk befriending service? Would she consider this? It might take the heat off you

https://www.ageuk.org.uk/services/befriending-services/

https://www.ageuk.org.uk/services/befriending-services

EchoChamber · 25/02/2024 17:46

shes not going to make any effort herself to find activities whilst she relies on you. Be firm and go to see her once a week for a couple of hours. That’s it.

aliceinanwonderland · 25/02/2024 17:56

Has she/you heard of U3A (University of the Third Age)? They do loads of stuff and once she's made friends, she can invite them over for tea and cake. https://www.u3a.org.uk/
I'm in the same position and now see my mother (89) 3-4 times per week and call every day. However recently it's been great as she's explained she can't see me as she's too busy!

u3a - Home

u3a is a UK-wide movement of locally-run groups providing a wide range of opportunities to come together to learn for fun exploring new ideas skills & interests

https://www.u3a.org.uk

PinkPandaPaint · 25/02/2024 18:52

She’s seems rather selfish to my mind. To be entertained daily indeed! Sulking if you have a trip without her!

And she socialises with other people at least every day, sometimes twice per day.

Once a week would be plenty for me if we got on well.

Or once a fortnight if I was busy or we didn’t get on or if I just didn’t want to visit more.

But what counts is - how often do you want to visit?

MereDintofPandiculation · 25/02/2024 19:52

I used to visit Dad every three days, for at least three hours. I would have tried to pop in every day if I could have got away in under 30mins, but that wasn’t possible.

i would imagine it would be quite hard to find new friends at 90+

Tel12 · 25/02/2024 19:56

Once a week should be fine.

MmedeGouge · 26/02/2024 07:38

I have contacted U3A there is a meeting place very close to her house. So that looks hopeful.
I will contact Ageuk befriending service too.

Thank you everyone for the advice and opinions.

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Twiglets1 · 26/02/2024 07:44

I think she’s being selfish and I would not expect my adult children to pop in to see me all the time when I’m old as they have their own lives. She could get a taxi but “prefers not to”. Tough! She should be getting taxis to the library etc or other places she likes to go.

I think it’s time to toughen up a bit for the sake of your mental health. And marriage - not surprised your husband doesn’t want her coming along every time he wants to go out with you.

Old age does seem to make some people rather self absorbed but you’re not being selfish in setting boundaries and considering that what you want is important too. You’re supporting a lot of people right now.

EmotionalBlackmail · 26/02/2024 08:15

You're seeing her a lot! She's never going to be happy, no matter how much you do. Plus when do you get time to have a break with everything else you've got going on?

She's capable of doing things and it's more helpful to her in the long run to encourage her to keep doing those things, get taxis, join U3A etc. It is harder to make friends as you get older but not impossible and there is a lot on for older people.

Would she be interested in something she perceived as 'helping' other people such as volunteering to listen to children read at a primary school? I discovered my local church's flower arranging group had little to do with flower arranging and was actually a four hour meet up with tea and cake and lengthy chats!

The switch to ready meals is common by this stage, I've found. People lose interest and don't have the energy for shopping and cooking just for one.

PinkPandaPaint · 26/02/2024 12:52

I did reflect my post came across as a bit reactive OP after I posted it, so apologies.

I just found myself irritated when I see (obviously a selected sample on this board) the daughter barely coping with so many responsibilities having these kinds of unreasonable demands made upon her.

The taxi thing - it occurred to me very elderly people might like the emotional reassurance of someone they know, rather than it being a physical thing. But sometimes we all have to deal with things that are not as comfortable as we would like. It sounds like your mother is very sociable but that also doesn’t mean she has to enforce that on you. Daughters also have their preferences re. how much they want to or are able to socialise and one doesn’t trump the other. She does sound intrusive though, with her demands to go out with you and your husband at all times.

I think if you told her it’s too much for you because of your responsibilities - which are clear and real - and from now on you’d be visiting X times she should understand. It may feel difficult to establish a new routine for both of you but soon the new normal will become, well, normal. She sounds like she has a very good quality of life and I don’t see the point in sacrificing yours to the extent that you are.

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