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RosinaG · 14/10/2023 11:54

My Dad is 71 and for 15 years we didn’t speak. He isn’t a nice man, selfish and narcissistic. I get no joy from my relationship with him only stress and anger. The trouble is my personality - I am not the most outspoken or direct and for some reason remain scared of him. It’s like I revert back to being a child with him. He dominates all conversation and has never accepted anything he’s done wrong such as never being there much as a kid as off down the pub and not paying a penny of child maintenance when he and my Mum split up.

When we got back in touch, he found out he was ill and moved to be close to me as he has no one else. Whilst he’s never said it, I suspect he did so thinking I’d be there to care for him. He is very expectant for someone who has given very little.

Recently he’s purchased a few things on finance yet doesn’t have much money. He made the comment that he’d not gone too expensive with this new purchase as wouldn’t want to leave me in any debt. I did respond to say that I didn’t have any money myself but I was absolutely furious that he’d think I’d take that on.

He’s also said he won’t have enough money for his funeral but again, I don’t want to pay out when he paid nothing towards me. When we reunited, the reason he said he paid no CSA was because they’d have taken everything from him and had left my Mum the house (though she did give him a settlement of 9k which back in the early 90’s was adequate in terms of what he’d paid in). My Mum said he had told her at the time regarding the CSA that she had made her bed and she would have to lie in it. ( it was her choice to split due to his drinking). He has said before to me (when drunk) that he did nothing wrong.

Recently, he’s asked me to take a days leave to spend the day with him at hospital which will be 10 hours worse case. It’s an early morning start which will mean my other half having to get to work late and sort the kids for school. I don’t want to take annual leave so have said I can’t take him due to kids but can pick him up.

I know he will be furious at this. He is an angry and easily offended person. But this is only going to get worse due to his medical condition. On one hand I don’t want to put myself out for him but on the other I know he’s got no one else and question if I’m being harsh. I’m literally in fear of seeing him again over the hospital request as can’t be dealing with his wrath. Getting back in touch was a big mistake as I don’t need this stress. But it would be cruel of me to walk away when he’s ill and has no one.

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DisplayPurposesOnly · 14/10/2023 12:03

His debts and paying for his funeral are not your problems. Those costs will come from his estate. If that estate is not enough, then his creditors will have to write off the debts and he will have a public health funeral:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/public-health-funerals-good-practice-guidance/public-health-funerals-good-practice-guidance

Public health funerals: good practice guidance

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/public-health-funerals-good-practice-guidance/public-health-funerals-good-practice-guidance

DustyLee123 · 14/10/2023 12:15

Do not get dragged into paying anything for him. His debts are his.
And you do not need to take a precious days leave to take him to hospital, he gets a taxi or hospital transport. Your leave is to be with your family, or for emergencies.

2jacqi · 14/10/2023 12:25

do not, whatever you do, arrange anything to do with the undertakers or funeral when he dies! the organiser of the funeral is usually the one who gets hit with the bill to pay!! The DSS will organise and pay for the funeral which will be minimal. when he dies just contact the dss

Daffidale · 14/10/2023 12:52

I’m so sorry OP that your Dad has been such a sh*t . He’s never going to change and this self-centred expecting you to take care of him (and his debts) when he gives nothing in return sounds typical.

You actually do not have to care and you can walk away. You can still go no contact again. Lots of people will judge you and wheel out the whole “he’s family… he’s old and lonely … he has no one else” emotional blackmail. But this is on him. While I am lucky to come from a loving family I have close friends who don’t and have seen 1st hand how cutting contact is often the only way

If you do want to keep some contact going, advice I’ve seen is a mix of the grey rock method (esp in the face of rage and emotional manipulation), and trying to pull off a mental shift where rather than see him as your Dad, you view him as an elderly person of vague aquaintance, who you are happy to help out a bit but have no actual obligation to.

MereDintofPandiculation · 14/10/2023 19:40

As said above, his debts won’t pass to you, and you do not have to pay his funeral costs. But you do have to make it clear that you didn’t have a relationship with him and are not paying for the funeral. If anyone (eg hospital) starts asking you about funeral directors, make it clear it’s not your problem. No-one will judge.

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