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Elderly parents

Advice please - father's suicide attempt and mental health

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beardeddragon174 · 23/01/2023 20:20

Evening all. I apologise but this is long and I could do with some advice....

When my poor father was young, his catholic dad made him go to a boarding school where he was abused by nuns. I don't know the specifics. After he left school at 15 his dad died and he lived with his mum. Following this he met my mum and had my brother and me. When I was 11, his mum died. I understand that he and his mum never ever spoke about what happened when he was a child but when she died he suffered the first of what would total ten complete nervous breakdowns. At one point during these he had to be sectioned and removed from the house while screaming that he was a dog called Stanley and just wanted to be with other dogs. It was deeply disturbing and although I was so young I still remember it.

His mental breaks would make him leave the house at all hours. He would go missing for days. The police would be out, helicopters, his photo on the news and everything. He would be found, be hospitalised, then have a short stay at a mental health unit, be discharged with a short course of therapy.

During these episodes he never ever remembered what made him leave the house, or where he went. He always just said the "voices" got too much. Despite years of therapy, he has never actually said what is haunting him. Sometimes he says that people are following him or posting about him online (he does not have a smartphone or internet access).

This went on for years until finally he stablised in around 2011.

Then two years ago it started all over again. My poor mother is a wreck. He went missing for some days two years ago and I rushed home to be with her and so did my brother. He was found, hospitalised, and my brother and I had to fight to put a mental health care plan in place.

The issue is, he is dutifully visited by MH professionals but every single fucking time, all he will talk about is the books and TV and films he loves. He will never speak about whatever trauma befell him, just that he was abused by the nuns, one nun in particular. Following several visits where he waxes lyrical about books and films, the MH team discharge him because he presents as "recovered." We can tell them that this is his pattern until we are blue in the face but they say there is nothing more they can do if he won't speak about how he feels. I don't know how to get anyone to listen to us.

Three weeks ago he tried to commit suicide. There are over 50 cuts on his wrists and arms. My mother walked in on him and said he was staring straight ahead as he moved the knife over his skin like it wasn't really him. She called an ambulance, my brother and I rushed down, he was hospitalised.

He will hopefully soon be moved to a MH unit. But my question is, is this his/my life forever until he dies? Can some things not be fixed? Is there a way to get him to talk about his experiences? My mother is going to have a breakdown herself if she has to endure much more of this.

There never seem to be any triggers for him. There is often no warning of episodes. His meds have been reviewed and changed multiple times but it never stops.

He is 72 now and this could go on for another 20 years, and writing this I cannot explain how much I dread that.

I don't know what I want from this but if you have read this far, thankyou.

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beardeddragon174 · 23/01/2023 20:21

I'm 38 now, by the way. This has dominated my life for 27 years.

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beccahamlet · 23/01/2023 20:24

I feel for you. I agree that it seems there are some things that can not be fixed.

Outtasteamandluck · 23/01/2023 20:28

This is utterly heartbreaking 💔 for all concerned. I am so sorry you are all dealing with the trauma of your Dads childhood.

Love and strength x

MediumChunky · 23/01/2023 20:37

I work in mental health and just wondered if your dad has ever had a diagnosis? Is he on anti psychotic medication?
Has he ever had any trauma focussed therapy where he’s addressed his childhood experiences? It sounds like a huge weight he, and you, have been carrying.

beardeddragon174 · 23/01/2023 20:40

@MediumChunky yes, he has been diagnosed with psychotic depression. He's been on various anti-psychotic meds, amisulpride being the latest. He's had years of therapy on and off, but the doctors working with him always reported that he would never speak at length about his experiences, only about stuff he likes to do: jigsaws, books, tv. My brother and mum and I were also advised not to bring up the episodes with him incase it was triggering, which I now realise has probably caused great resentment. I'm starting therapy myself soon so my own son (hopefully) won't have to deal with my issues from this when he is older.

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beardeddragon174 · 23/01/2023 20:41

Oh actually I don't know if it has been trauma focussed therapy specifically.

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beardeddragon174 · 23/01/2023 20:41

@Outtasteamandluck @beccahamlet thankyou for your replies x

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MediumChunky · 23/01/2023 22:45

Just a couple of things which came to mind while reading your post again:
How long ago was the psychotic depression diagnosis? I'm just thinking that psychotic episodes can be secondary to PTSD and wondering if your dads trauma background might point to this? Then that opens up different treatment pathways like EMDR.
I might be way off, but just trying to find another path to try.

Also, is your dad good at taking his meds? Sometimes people stop when they feel better which causes the relapse.

Has your mum had a carer's assessment? She should have been referred for one at some point as she's under significant stress.

Is your dad in hospital still?

beardeddragon174 · 24/01/2023 20:50

@MediumChunky thanks so much for your reply. I don't know if she has been referred for a carer's assessment. I agree she should be/should have been. I will look into this.

He was diagnosed with psychotic depression in 2019, I don't know what his earlier diagnosis was at prior mental health inpatient facility stays. again I'll try and find out.

My mum makes sure he takes his meds every day. She stays with him while he does it because he went through several years of hiding them behind cushions and things.

He is still in hospital but Dr there says he will be transferred to a MH facillity when well enough (when arriving in hospital few weeks ago he got agitated, fell and fractured a vertebrae and has since been recovering from that).

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Springiscoming12345 · 07/02/2023 14:16

OP how is your dad doing? My husband has recently been diagnosed with psychotic depression but extremely mild in comparison to your father's. Are you in the UK? I'm gobsmacked about the lack of care your father has received.we are visited every 2 weeks and are closely monitored.
The psychosis your father is experiencing sounds extremely severe. And it sounds like your all going round in circles.he needs a permanent care plan ,possibly residential. It's not good for him or family members to deal with this yourselves.
I am so sorry that you are all going through this

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