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Elderly parents

Mum going into care home for assessment- no idea what I need to do

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OhamIreally · 18/08/2022 14:12

My mum has been in hospital for several weeks. She is being moved to an "offsite bed" in a care home for 28 days. I think it's unlikely she will be assessed as able to go home.
She has dementia, I do not have POA, she refuses to engage with any care package that's put in place and in the words of the council care manager "has no insight into her care needs".
I am quite low contact with her for various reasons but am visiting this weekend.
She is self-funding, I helped her set up a direct debit but the council refused to use it as they said she didn't have capacity so instead they send her invoices for hundreds of pounds which she writes cheques for and takes to the post office (which frankly is beyond her). When she goes into a care home I assume the council will take steps to sell her flat.
What can I do to help my mum? I have no right to remove her things but the flat will need to be cleared?
Will I get a say in what care home she goes into if she's self funding?
Again as per above I don't have POA so can't take the reins for her. The council has applied for deputyship.
If anyone has been through similar can you advise?

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Velvian · 18/08/2022 16:11

The council won't be able to sell her home. If your mum already lacks capacity to manage her finances, you can look into applying for Deputyship to enable you to manage her finances and property for her.

Has a Mental Capacity Assessment taken place?

HappyHamsters · 18/08/2022 18:38

Would you like to apply for deputyship instead of the Council. She will have a capacity assessment at the home, probably they will apply for a DOLS so they can care for her in her best interests, give her medication etc. The carehome manager and an allocated social worker will need to sort out the finances, do you have access to her house to collect important documents, read the meters, empty the fridge, take her some personal belongings and to ensure its safely Locked up .
I would call the care home manager and request a meeting with the social worker and mental capacity assessor if you want ro get involved.
You could help with paperwork, telling the bank, utility companies, council tax etc. If you want to but discuss it with the social worker first.
Do you know if she has a solicitor.

Mum5net · 19/08/2022 15:59

@OhamIreally What you have to do is to decide whether you want apply for deputyship or whether you are happy that the Social Work team do this. A lot will depend on how you want to be involved going forward. You are obviously low contact for a reason and so only you know how you want to progress. I am sure that the Social Work team will support you by explaining clearly what the options are and what it would entail. They will answer all your questions but I suspect you won't be able to enter her flat.

MY DM was under section when my DF died unexpectedly and we had no POA. My DSis and I applied for guardianship/ deputyship with legal aid but we had to work very closely with the Social Work team as they represented my DM's interests while the court process was underway. I cannot fault the SW team at all. In Scots Law once the papers for guardianship are lodged the person (DM) has to remain at their given address for the duration until a decision is made. I've no idea if this applies in England but this might be something to consider if you think the care home she is presently residing does not meet her needs. Ultimately though, this might not be your decision to take. @HappyHamsters links will explain better than I can.

JennyMule · 19/08/2022 19:14

If you are in England or Wales most LAs would ask family if they want/are able to apply for deputyship. As PP have said, you need to think about whether this is something that you are able and willing to do (assuming you've not already been consulted and decided not to.) There is lots of info on gov.uk which will help you understand what's involved. Equally, most LAs are more than happy for family to do the legwork regarding things from home, sorting out the fridge etc. Key is to track down the allocated SW and discuss with them. Good luck.

OhamIreally · 27/08/2022 10:30

Thank you so much for your help. @HappyHamsters thank you for the links.
@Mum5net yes I am low contact for a reason you were in an old thread of mine and so compassionate when she had objected to the POA we had set up.
Social services asked if I wanted to be the deputy but I don't have the bandwidth for it, and after her objection to the POA I just do not want to.
I saw her at the weekend, she is still in hospital, there is a keysafe at her place so I packed some things and took them to her as well as buying her new night things and toiletries.
I subsequently spoke to her care manager who said I could have input into the permanent choice of care home as she would be self funding, and also that I would be able to be involved in clearing her home etc.
The care manager is a very nice sensible woman so I feel that between us we will manage ok.

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Mum5net · 27/08/2022 21:16

@OhamIreally i remember now. Sounds like you’ve reached a point with DM where things don’t hurt quite as much. I think you are quite right to have detached. I would have done exactly the same. When the care home takes over there is a sense of getting your own life back. Reap what you sow and all that. Natural boundaries are in place it sounds. Well done you.

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