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Elderly parents

Problems with elderly mum

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Everydaydayisaschoolday · 06/04/2022 14:38

My mum isn't that old, only 79, but over the last 6 months she has grown very frail and vague. She had a few weeks in hospital with pneumonia and a blood clot and rather than go straight back to her new retirement flat we agreed she would have 2/3 weeks respite care in a care home to build up her strength. She has stayed there before and says she likes it there.

When I was unpacking her stuff from the hospital I found her toiletry bag was unsealed. In the whole time she was there she didn't brush her teeth once. I also found out that she only had one shower the whole time she was there and that was only because a nurse pretty much forced her.

I spoke to Mum about this and said I was going to ask the care home staff to help her brush her teeth/wash. I said that unless she could carry out basic personal care she wouldn't be able to go back to the flat. She reluctantly agreed. The care home rang me earlier to say they have tried several times over the last 24 hours but she is adamantly refusing to get out of bed to do these things. She also refuses to walk any further than her en suite despite the physio at the hospital telling her she needs to practice with her frame and walking stick.

I don't know what to do. We can't physically force her to wash but she can't stay dirty. A bath or shower once or twice a week is not an unreasonable demand.

She is keen to get back to her flat and resume independent living but she doesn't clean the flat or cook. She bulk buys food and then won't eat it but stores it until it goes off. Her BMI is 15.1 so its not surprising she is weak and lethargic and has low energy. She lies in bed all day in the dark watching tv. When I visit she is pleased to see me for 2 minutes and then dismisses me because I have opened the curtains. I think she has given up in life and just wants to die but there is nothing physically wrong with her. She's also been tested for dementia so it's not that.

I'm seriously considering whether she will ever be able to go back to independent living. We will pay helpers if she does (she is well off, there is no shortage of money). But they will only be a couple of hours a day.

She told social services at the hospital that I would do all her housework, shopping, cooking and personal care. Luckily her brother was there at the time and was able to put them right on that. I live near her and have always popped in and out to help out but I'm not available or willing to be her main career. I have employed cleaners to help her before but she refuses to let them in and I think we would have the same issues with carers. Even if we gave them access via a key safe I think she would be so vile to them they would quit.

I'm getting desperate. I'm only 60. I took early retirement during lockdown and was excited to start seeing the world and enjoying myself but my world is shrinking to a route between my house and wherever she happens to be staying.

Before anyone says she is your mum, I wish I still had my mum with me to take care of her please bear in mind that not all mums are benign, loving women. My mum was a violent and manipulative bully and made my childhood and those of my siblings hell. There is a reason why the others all live far, far away. She isn't violent anymore but she's still a very unpleasant woman. I'm doing my best to help her because I'm sorry for her (and fear, obligation and guilt of course). I want her to have as comfortable and happy an old age as possible but not at the expense of my middle age.

Sorry to rant. This is long. But I'd be grateful if anyone who has been through similar could share their experiences - good or bad.

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ChiswickFlo · 06/04/2022 14:42

Leave her there
She has capacity
Her decision to give up

AttilaTheMeerkat · 06/04/2022 14:48

I would also suggest you post this in the Elderly Parents forum of this website; their counsel on there can be very helpful too.

Do you think she feels FOG re your siblings and you or feels for you now; no not a bit of it!. She was telling social services at the hospital that you would do all her housework, shopping, cooking and personal care!!.

re your comment:-
"She isn't violent anymore but she's still a very unpleasant woman. I'm doing my best to help her because I'm sorry for her (and fear, obligation and guilt of course). I want her to have as comfortable and happy an old age as possible but not at the expense of my middle age".

Well do not let that happen to you; you still have a choice here and you are an adult with agency. Your mother has not fundamentally altered since your own childhood and it is fear, obligation and guilt that you need to address now through therapy. She installed those buttons in you after all and will press them at will.

Am glad your uncle put Social Services right re your mother's assertion that you would do all her housework, shopping, cooking and personal care!. I would make it abundantly clear to both Social Services and the care home that you are not going to become your mother's carer because you are and feel unable to do so. You also cannot help someone who does not want to be helped. Its hard being the last one left but there's good reasons why your siblings moved far away leaving her behind and you will need to do the same as they have done.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 06/04/2022 14:49

She indeed has capacity
Her decision indeed to give up.
Don't let her put any of this on you.

thecurtainsofdestiny · 06/04/2022 14:53

Lack of motivation/ weight loss due to low appetite could mean mental health disorder like depression. Has she had an assessment re this possibility?

Bluechinavase · 06/04/2022 15:05

OP I could have written your post Flowers

It’s like they’ve given up but want to drag you into the grave with them. My Mum has made it home with a full care package from a recent hospital stay but she hardly eats, does nothing, has not had a shower in months (just washes at sink) despite her shower being a fully accessible wet room. It’s like she’s just waiting for the inevitable. She is on an anti depressant to buoy her up a bit, but that just masks the situation. My Mum is in her 90s.

I realise I need to find some coping mechanisms and some sort of detachment from the whole situation but it’s not easy.

cptartapp · 06/04/2022 15:18

I wouldn't be doing any 'helping out'. At all. No popping in and out, as hard as it will be. Make that quire clear to everyone. Only when you step back and a crisis develops will things change.
My DM ended up on BP medication and antidepressants pandering to my 89 year old GM and then died six months after her at 69.
Go and enjoy your retirement. Your happiness is more important.

Everydaydayisaschoolday · 06/04/2022 15:23

Thank you everyone for your support. I've asked for this to be moved to Elderly Parents topic. I didn't know that existed so thank you @AttilaTheMeerkat

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Cherrysoup · 06/04/2022 15:34

Can she stay in the care home? Whilst mine is very active and living in her own house still, she has decided she doesn’t need to wash properly or change her clothes, so she smells. Telling her makes no difference. I’m following this to see if I can get any tips.

Fairyarmpits · 06/04/2022 21:55

Could you enlist the help of a professional (i.e. Social Worker or Care Home Manager) to convey the message that she will be able to go home once she has proved she is capable of looking after herself?

It's very unlikely she will listen to you.

At the end of the day, no one can make her do anything. The only person who can get herself home is your Mum.

GreenClock · 08/04/2022 09:04

Step back, OP. Enjoy your retirement. Let matters run their course.

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