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Elderly parents

Estranged but support is needed. I feel a bit stuck.

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DontKnowWhere2Turn · 02/02/2021 18:28

I've been estranged from my parents pretty much since I turned 18. They have, since then, kept themselves to themselves and accepted this. My siblings are also in the same position as me.

I am aware (through general family updates) that their health was declining over the last few years. They have, by all accounts, never been good at keeping a tidy home or eating reasonably well etc and they were both heavily dependent on alcohol and cigarettes.

My father passed away two weeks ago. My siblings and I were notified through family channels. They have insisted that this changes nothing with their relationship with our mother and respect that.

I visited my mother two days after my father's death in order to check in and see what, if any, practical support is now needed that she is alone.

After talking with her, she has been caring for him and he has been bed bound for around 2 years.

Their home was shocking. Years upon years of litter, cigarette ash, soiled clothing, newspapers, food packaging piled up everywhere. I knew it would be bad as I recall my own childhood home. She knew I was coming to see her.

With her permission, I cleared as much of the obvious rubbish as was possible but it is not a task for one person. I am also mindful of the fact that this isn't simply a situation where I clean the house then leave and she can handle it from there. This is a deep seated issue.

Whilst I have no intentions of rekindling a relationship of any sort (the boat has sailed on that a long time ago), she is alone. And if I don't try and sort this out, who will?

I'm thinking along the lines of some sort of social worker or possibly even a move into a shelter block - she has medical issues that hinder her ability to go upstairs in her house even.

She is a Housing Association tenant on some benefits but I'm not sure what. She has intimated that she can afford to buy in help so that's another thing - if I was able to get the property to a reasonable standard, is there a way to get someone / carers in?

She isn't washing or changing her clothes. I daren't imagine when the last time she changed her sheets.

I contacted our local council about an assessment and was brutally honest on the forms, yet they have decided that she doesn't meet the requirements for assessment.

Even the paramedics who attended when my father passed noted that she was clearly not coping (she told me this and said she tried to tell them otherwise however they can see from the condition of her home).

At the same time my siblings are adamant that my father's death changes nothing. That they want nothing to do with her. Frankly, I don't either. But equally I cannot leave her completely alone seeing just how much she is not able to cope. I need to find a middle ground.

And I have no idea where to turn.

OP posts:
DogsSausages · 02/02/2021 18:53

Can you contact adult safeguarding team, her gp and the h.a. would she agree to this. The h.a need to know that she is neglecting herself and her environment which puts her at risk. Does she want your help.

DontKnowWhere2Turn · 02/02/2021 22:03

Thank you. I will contact those you've suggested and see how this moves forward. She wants help, for sure. Not entirely sure she wants it from me, but at the moment she seems to be content to let me.

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thesandwich · 02/02/2021 23:01

Could you apply for attendance allowance for her to help pay for some help? Age uk or carers uk are helpful.
Consider power of attorney - but think about what involvement you want.

GreenClock · 02/02/2021 23:44

I think you first need to figure out how involved you want to be OP.

You don’t seem “estranged”. If you do some of the grunt work re. social services, benefits etc you may end up being sucked in as the “point of contact”. Be wary.

DontKnowWhere2Turn · 03/02/2021 07:17

I want as little involvement as possible tbh. We've not seen each other for years, prior to the death of my father. However I know that no one else will step in.

I want to establish the basic level needed to ensure that she doesn't simply waste away in her home unknown or worse, set the place alight flicking her fag ash onto the piles of litter.

Once she is on social services radar/her HA are aware, I will walk away.

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DuaLipaSuction · 04/02/2021 16:53

worse, set the place alight flicking her fag ash onto the piles of litter

I suppose that even if you fitted smoke alarms, she's not going to replace the batteries is she.

Let us know what the HA and Social Services say Thanks

o8O8O8o · 05/02/2021 14:08

Another vote for the adult safeguarding option, it sounds very painful and uncomfortable, props to you for looking for a way to 'do the right thing' but without damaging yourself 🙏

Honeyroar · 05/02/2021 14:14

If she’s got the finances you can just set it up privately. Contact a local care company (we used Home Instead for my MIL). If you can get the house reasonably clear/clean theyd send someone for an hour or two a day (or whatever was needed). They’d meet you there and do an assessment and decide with you (and your mother) what was needed/affordable.

pomacentrus · 05/02/2021 14:32

Definitely report to adult safeguarding, but as it sounds like she has full mental capacity if she refuses to engage with support, they will leave her to it.

Do not go down the route of you trying to clean etc., it will just build up again. As she is used to living there, she will likely be unaffected by the germs/smell.

Wasting away in their home unknown/fire is the endpoint for a lot of hoarders. There is not a lot you can do to prevent this by this point, like an alcoholic poisoning their liver, or a smoker with lung cancer - they made their own choices even if they were unwise ones.

Look after yourself

o8O8O8o · 05/02/2021 17:39

Wasting away in their home unknown/fire is the endpoint for a lot of hoarders
sadly it probably is when someone is just too far gone as a hoarder:( however they pose a risk to neighboring property so for that reason you should be able to rely on social services to oversee things?
She's an adult and you didnt make the choices that led here her OP

miimblemomble · 06/02/2021 07:29

What a hard situation.

Unfortunately, while

miimblemomble · 06/02/2021 07:36

... oops, sorry!

I want to establish the basic level needed to ensure that she doesn't simply waste away in her home unknown or worse, set the place alight flicking her fag ash onto the piles of litter.

Unfortunately while this might seem like a “basic” level of care to you, it’s really not - especially if the person has capacity and is choosing to live this way. Achieving the above will require a huge amount of research, effort, involvement, contacting and hassling service providers, physical sorting and clearing etc and it doesn’t sound like your mum will do any of it. And even if you put everything in place, it will need your ongoing involvement to keep it working. And even then all of that may not be enough if your mum continues to be as she has always been.

What does your mum want to do?

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