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Elderly parents

Dementia symptoms

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luzzbightyear · 20/02/2020 10:07

DM (74) has become over the last year increasingly self-centred, blunt and unable (or unwilling) to see things from the perspective of others. She's mobile, relatively sharp of mind - so far- and leads a busy social life.

She lives 20 mins away from me and spends a lot of time visiting my DB abroad for a week or so at a time. Needless to say however it's always "too far" and she's "too busy" to come and see us or for us to visit her. He gets monthly financial support from her. I get nothing, didn't even get a Christmas present.

She ignores my youngest DS (3) as "he won't settle with me" and sits there on her phone on the very rare occasion when she does grace us with a visit. These visits are of course unannounced and usually at inappropriate or inconvenient times, usually coinciding with an evening meal.

I have recently been diagnosed with a medical condition and she will at all costs avoid talking about it. She won't enquire how I am or offer help. She actively changes the subject if it comes up. She also questions the medical diagnosis and says I'm making it all up. She is - needless to say - not medically trained.

I am at my wits end with this. I have given up trying to convince her that I could do with some motherly TLC as begging for some love and hugs isn't really quite the same as just getting them off someone who's meant to notice these things and give hugs. I'm currently holding her at arms length whilst I struggle to deal with this lack of attention and empathy and work out a strategy.

It occurred to me today that she's not entirely incapable of empathy as DB gets it in bucket loads. They speak on the phone several times a week, he is her second main topic of conversation (she herself is her first) and she appears to be very sensitive to whatever is going on in his life.

As a former teacher, she speaks at people rather than have a conversation with them and having been on her own for 30+ years, I think she also forgets that one has to take other opinions of those around you into account. When she does join us she talks solely about herself and takes no interest in what the kids are saying or doing. She undermines me with my own teenage kids by trying to impose her rules and punishments on them which bear no relevance to our household. I'm trying to set my own boundaries with this behaviour and helping my teens do the same, but it's tiresome and upsetting.

Having come to the conclusion that she's actually quite a selfish and unpleasant person at the moment, but fully recognising the fact there's probably several years left in the dear old goat and that I need to work around this rather than try and change it, I am beginning to wonder whether these could be symptoms of dementia. She's likely to be very violently against seeing a GP.

Any suggestions on remaining sane whilst trying to get her the support she needs would be much appreciated.

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Rinsefirst · 20/02/2020 10:55

No expertise to say whether this is symptomatic of dementia but just wanted to say OP that you sound lovely and she sounds quite a handful.

I'd be letting her 'golden' child worry about getting her the support and personally taking a huge backward step and deliberately be less available. She will get an awful lot worse. Flowers
It wasn't until I was a parent myself and my children were upwards of five and at school that I realised that my DM had made many, many odd parenting and indeed, lifestyle choices. She had brainwashed me I think you will get a lot of good advice in the posts to come from mumsnetters which will be truly helpful. Put you and your children first always.

luzzbightyear · 20/02/2020 12:07

Thank you @Rinsefirst - I think you've hit the nail on the head with the idea of brainwashing. It's only now I'm sandwiched between needy kids and needy parents that I'm realising the extent of her odd - probably narcissistic - parenting traits and behaviour all along, which aren't improved with the onset of old age and possible dementia too.

It's mentally exhausting, isn't it. I'm trying to shield my teenagers from the brunt of it too as they love dear old grandma dearly and would be devastated to know this other side of her. I'd want them to remember the lovely Grandma, not this bitter, selfish one she's becoming.

It seems to involve a lot of poker faced conversations and gritting of one's teeth when she's around.

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Rinsefirst · 20/02/2020 13:36

How did she deal with her parents and in laws when they got old? The answer to that might help you in your future dealings with her.

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/02/2020 09:11

You need to separate yourself emotionally. You're not going to get any unasked hugs from her at the moment, so try not hope for them. If she's self-centred, then it isn't that she actively feels ill-will towards you, it's just that you're beyond the edge of her universe. Think of her as a goldfish - observe her behaviour but don't let it spark an emotional reaction in you. And if she calls round and an inconvenient time, don't put yourself out to accommodate her. "Oh dear, mum, we're just about to eat - would you like to sit here while you wait for us all to come out of the dining room?"

Mosaic123 · 21/02/2020 11:38

Encourage her to stay longer with your brother too. 'A week is very short Mum'.

UYScuti · 21/02/2020 13:32

Step right back and don't expect any sympathy from her, but don't offer her any either

bigTillyMint · 21/02/2020 13:43

As a former teacher, she speaks at people rather than have a conversation with them and having been on her own for 30+ years, I think she also forgets that one has to take other opinions of those around you into account

This was my mother!
She was diagnosed with dementia about 6 years ago and has been in a home for four. She was renowned in the home for doing the above Grin but now mostly sleeps.

I think mums favouring their sons (especially when they seem to need more support) is fairly common. Among my friends anyway.

Sympathies.

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