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Elderly parents

GPS trackers?

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Needmoresleep · 26/08/2019 11:46

My mother is 90, ten years into dementia, needs a walker, and has a tendency to wander. I want to keep her in very sheltered housing as long as possible but am concerned that they are about to say she is no longer safe in that setting.

What I would really like is a GPS tracker that could be attached to her walker and accessed via some sort of 'find my phone' app. Better still would be one that would send me an alert if she stepped beyond the perimeter of the sheltered housing gardens.

Any ideas. The technology will be there. Has anyone adapted it for the elderly?

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thesandwich · 26/08/2019 11:50

Hello nms
Not used it but this sort of thing?
dementia.livebetterwith.com/products/personal-alarm-gps-tracker

Finfintytint · 26/08/2019 11:51

Yes, there are many devices especially for this ( have a google).
There are pendants and wristwatches but would she keep it on?
The lady I look after fiddles with her pendant and takes it off quite a bit (although hers is an alarm only).

Finfintytint · 26/08/2019 11:53

Sorry, just realised you want something attached to a walker.

Notageek · 26/08/2019 11:56

How about this ? www.weenect.com/en/

Needmoresleep · 26/08/2019 12:02

My mum would remove a pendant. But cant wander without her walker, so attaching it would be a solution. Perhaps I need a spy shop to hide it discreetly. 007 like. With camera...perhaps. Or hidden brake. A cattle grid around her sheltered housing which walkers could not transverse would work!

She was found in a bowling alley last month. This month she was trying to check herself into the care home down the road. I need that blip on the screen!

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Needmoresleep · 26/08/2019 12:02

Ahh sounds perfect.

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scotwood · 26/08/2019 12:06

Honestly? It's not a tracker she needs, it's more care. I don't mean that in a bad way but a tracker won't protect her from any danger. It will only possibly allow you to find her if she goes missing. She sounds like maybe she does need a care home, there is no benefit in keeping her in sheltered accommodation if she is wandering off. Anything could happen between you being alerted to her going out and you locating her, even with a tracker.

Needmoresleep · 26/08/2019 12:15

She has quite a lot of care, including 24 hour warden cover and a reception from 6.00am to 10pm plus a carer she employs directly who comes in three times a day. She is very happy, amazingly so. Its not going to last forever but I dont want to move her till I absolutely have to. She may well live for another decade and quality of life is important. All the advice I receive suggests she would find the dementia unit of a home difficult.

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MereDintofPandiculation · 27/08/2019 07:33

What terrifies me most about dementia is the thought of people "keeping me safe" to endure a living hell for as long as possible. Needmoresleep I think your care of your mother is admirable.

Notageek · 27/08/2019 07:42

Just a thought ..could you put something on your mum’s walker with your contact details - then at least if she goes somewhere she shouldn’t they could let you know.

Accountant222 · 27/08/2019 08:10

We had a tracker for my Mother with Alzheimer's, luckily she's forgotten she ever went out every day now, but it was useful when she got on the wrong bus, problem is they need charging up.

PurpleWithRed · 27/08/2019 08:14

Echoing Notageek's thought - can you make sure she also has her name and emergency contacts on her walker or ideally sewn into some clothes somewhere? I've been called out to people with dementia who are lost, and sometimes the family haven't yet realised they've wandered away.

Oh to have facilities with 24 hour wardens and receptionists round here...

Needmoresleep · 27/08/2019 09:06

My mums accomodation is wonderful. Apparently the firm was started by people with a social services background, and designed specifically so that support can be ramped up as needs grow. The receptionists have a discrete list of people they tick off each morning, and check on if they don't see them. A weekly clean is included in the service charge, which seems to include monitoring things like use by dates in the fridge so they have a clear idea of when capacity is going and more support is needed.

Retirement Security Ltd, have a number of Courts around the country, if anyone is looking to buy a retirement flat. Unlike many such properties they seem to retain their value well.

For me the biggest improvement was not have to be the first one to take the call. When something happens, I am now told she is on her way to hospital, which is far better than the constant "drop everything and run" anxiety that I used to have when the phone rang.

Another huge advantage is that very sheltered costs a lot less than a home. Service charges plus an optional daily three course lunch, tea, coffee and laundry costs about £1,300. A good care home for a self funder over the past seven years would have been an awful lot more. Part of my desire to keep her there as long as possible is that there is every chance she will live a further decade. My parents benefited from rising property prices in the South East, but even so it will be quite an achievement to have funded my mother through 20 years of dementia care. So I am willing to put a lot of effort into solving problems as they arise, in order to keep her where she is.

But fundamentally as Meredinto says, it is based round my mother's needs. At the moment she believes she is independent, and she retains her dignity and sense of self. She may not be able to change channels on her TV but she can turn it on, so believes she has choice. She can leave her flat to go to the coffee lounge, and return when she had had enough. She has her kitchen, even if she does not realise that she no longer uses it. She puts the chain on her front door at night, without realising that her carer can circumvent this and enter each morning. Some of her furniture was bought when she first got married. The general agreement is that my mother is fiercely independent and that to the extent that a decision needs to be made between independence and risk, we need to accept/minimise risk in order to give her as much independence as possible. If my mother were more timid and if a lack of memory made her fearful, the balance would be in a different place. That said, I am aware that we are on borrowed time, and that within the next year or two professionals may well be telling me that she needs to change setting. (At which point, cost wise and in terms of familiarity - 24 hour care in her old home - currently rented out - may be the better option.)

One of the first things we did was ensure that she was on Social Services radar. In part because of wandering, but also for issues around hospital stays and discharge. She lives on Costa Geriatrica so the local supermarket also keeps a list of shoppers who can forget their way home.

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Kgab · 27/08/2019 11:34

Would definitely recommend weenect. We have it for my mum who as mixed dementia and still lives in her own home. We can set the perimeter to what we want and can find her next to no time as it gives us detailed information where she is

Alonglongway · 20/09/2019 02:34

How did you get on with this?

My mum is similar great character. She got lost a few times when at home and we had good success putting an old phone in her bag with find my phone enabled. She’s now in a nursing home and managed to leave the other day, terrifying everyone. So we’re looking at trackers and I’m trying this one out. www.amazon.co.uk/BuFan-Real-Time-Anti-Theft-Positioning-Application/dp/B07PGDRFNF?tag=mumsnetforu03-21

WillLokireturn · 22/09/2019 04:29

We have this in our LA. Telecare via Argenti GPS that can be set within distance parameters. (Of course it has to be charged up and left in handbag or coat pocket that the person will take with them when going out) , or telecare alarms that go off to central if leaving flat.

I don't know where in UK you are. But please talk to LA. Even if just for advice. There is a big push for telecare solutions to maintain people's independence.

Jessicabrassica · 22/09/2019 07:04

You can get trackers in shoe insoles which are amazing.

Just be aware that my dad is in resi care and the manager said in her opinion if he needed a tracker because he tended to get lost, then he shouldn't be going out alone because the risks were too high.

To be fair, at that point he'd been returned twice in 3 days from places he shouldn't have been. On one of them he bumped into a friend of mine, miles away across the fields. We wouldn't have found him out there and it would have been a full scale community/mountain rescue effort to find him.

He now has a dols and goes shopping with staff in the week but has to wait for weekends to go hill walking with us.

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