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'Outside' help - any advice on what's available? Also a vent, long, sorry

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bringincrazyback · 22/01/2019 12:25

Hi all. Just wondering whether anyone is in a similar situation to me. For those that haven't read any of my posts before, my parents live with myself and DH, albeit mostly in a separate part of the house. I'm 'unofficially' one of my dad's carers, thing is, he and my mum are starting to need more help than I am really able to give. My mum's permanently exhausted, looks thin and ill, is possibly starting with dementia, and refuses to see a doctor for any of these things. DH and I already do most of the cooking between us, we have a cleaner that my parents contribute towards (albeit my mum won't allow the cleaner into 'their' parts of the house, but also isn't up to much cleaning atm, with the result that parts of their rooms are filthy including the toilet - she gets tearful when I offer to clean for them), I take them to all their medical appointments (neither of them can drive any more), organise virtually all the shopping, do 'ad hoc' errands etc. None of which I begrudge doing.

But I'm gearing up for a conversation about wanting us to look into whether there's any additional outside help available. My dad's started to hint that he thinks I should take over absolutely everything (all the cooking/cleaning/shopping, this is a large 3-storey house mind you) and I think he's also hinting that he wants me to take over parts of his personal care so my mum can get more rest. (I'm completely put in the middle over this issue - if my mum gets to hear that he's said these things, she gets angry and says it's up to her how much she chooses to do, meanwhile my dad's telling me to ignore her and that she's in a terrible state and needs me to do it all). Every day is a farce of my mum saying she can cope and my dad telling me not to listen to her and me not knowing who to believe.

I feel awful typing this, but although in a perfect world I wouldn't begrudge doing these things, I'm just not up to it. I'm already at full stretch and beyond. I have my own health issues - anxiety/depression, menopause issues, a sleep disorder and chronic fatigue (and am feeling increasingly hurt that my dad doesn't seem to care about these things, I can't remember the last time anyone except DH asked how I am or how I'm coping) plus I can't afford not to work - a recurring bone of contention because DH earns a good salary and my parents have never understood why I feel any need to earn my own money, but I have business and personal costs to meet just like any adult human being. I'm self-employed and work from home, but I'm sometimes guilt-tripped about the fact that I'm not a housewife 'on call' for them 24/7/365, and I'm sure my dad thinks I should stop working and just live off DH and be their full-time carer. A part of me feels guilty that I'm not doing exactly that, like it makes me a bad daughter (no siblings to help out BTW). A part of me also knows my dad's being unreasonable - he's recently taken to getting upset/huffy at the prospect of me ever going for holidays or weekends away and leaving them alone, and over my spending much-needed downtime on my hobbies, it's like I'm not allowed a life and of course I know he is BU in this regard - but I honestly don't know where to strike the balance between setting limits and helping them. All I know is I need to tell them I can't do it all and can't cope any more with everything that's being put on to me.

Before this move took place, they assured me that they weren't going to expect me to do all the care if one/both of them became incapacitated, yet now all I seem to hear is that outside health/care workers e.g. physios, care workers that have come in in the past to help with washing/dressing my dad in the morning 'aren't worth the bother', 'you never know what time they're going to come', etc etc, which has led to a situation where my mum keeps saying she can cope, anyone can see she can't and the effort is making her ill, and every time she's out of the room my dad hints I'm not doing enough to help her.

My dad verbally fights me tooth and nail when doctors need to be called and can be very nasty (he's suffering from quite severe depression and I do make allowances, but it's so stressful and hurtful regardless). Several times I've been the only one to face up to the fact that he urgently needed (life-saving) medical attention and get it for him, but this is never acknowledged and I'm never thanked, I just get my head ripped off all over again the next time it occurs.

Also, and I'm ashamed to type this, but I've never done toileting or washing or anything of that nature, sooner or later I know I'm going to have to, and the thought of it just horrifies me. I realise this is pathetic but I never had kids and I've never wiped a bottom in my life other than my own. Obviously I will do it if/when I ever need to, but I just can't seem to make myself feel as OK about doing it as my dad seems to think I should.)

Sorry, I've segued into a vent here, but I just feel like I'm drowning. DH understands, sympathises and helps out somewhat, but seems to think all it takes is 'an assertive conversation' with my parents and everything will magically be fixed. He doesn't have a clue about the layers of denial, tears, manipulation, gaslighting and guilt-tripping that go on whenever I try to talk realistically to my parents about the future. I've had umpteen 'assertive conversations', or tried to. Every time I try to raise any of this with them, they just cry and try to make out I'm being unfair/too hard on them which I honestly don't feel I am.

Anyway, my question is this: I've tried to raise it with my parents umpteen times about letting me look into what outside help might be available, e.g. whether home helps still exist, whether my parents are entitled to any at-home care (I realise costs would be involved, but they always claim they'd be able to afford it and I have a rough idea of their finances and believe them - I honestly think it's just pride, and the convenience of having me on tap, that stops them looking into what's available or allowing me to.) They keep trying to tell me there isn't anything available and I don't believe them, but don't know where to start looking. I realise they might be frightened DH and I will put them in a home, but it's not what we want unless it becomes medically necessary, they've been reassured on that score.

Sorry about the long/rambling/whingeing, it was partly just that I desperately needed to get this out. I suppose my question in a nutshell is where do I start trying to figure out what help, if any, is available?

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bringincrazyback · 30/01/2019 14:58

I was wrong when I said I thought they were finally listening the other day. I'm too upset to paraphrase so I'm going to paste in bits of what I just emailed to DH:

[...] there's been an almighty bust-up this end, my dad's being downright nasty because he's fed up, won't take his blood pressure or let me do it, says he doesn't feel well but won't let me ring the doctor, and I snapped today and told him I couldn't take any more. I've had the usual tears/victim stuff from my mum, nothing from my dad because apparently I don't even deserve words when I tell him how much he's hurting me and that my depression is worsening because of it. Not asking you to get involved or to post-mortem it with me later or anything like that, just asking you to understand that I might still be upset tonight. (Of course, he'll be all smiles if he happens to see you, but according to my mum 'that's just how it is' and I'm not putting up with it any more.) And of course as usual it's me that's stuck with the guilt in case he now gets upset about what I've said and takes a turn for the worse, and because my mum's used her usual non-existent coping skills and just gone off crying to smoke as per fucking usual.

Waiting till I've cooled down a little before making this decision, but at the moment I'm sorely tempted to book my week away for next week, tbh the only thing stopping me right now is [something social that's happening].

Going to be using the weekend to do a bit of research online to find out what sort of outside help is available, because if things carry on like they are now, I'm taking a step back so they can get a sense of how things would be if I wasn't here as their fucking unpaid servant.[...]

I'd be sitting here sobbing my heart out, but the pain goes too deep for tears.

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thesandwich · 30/01/2019 15:28

Oh bring I am so sorry. 🌺🌺🌺 step back, do your research and look after yourself. 🍫🍫🍫🍷🍷🍷

bringincrazyback · 30/01/2019 15:41

Thanks @thesandwich, doing my best. wobbly smile

I think what hurts is being treated like a naughty child who's just trying to hurt them, when all I'm trying to do is keep them on the planet as long as possible and do what I can to grant some quality of life. Unspeakably painful.

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thesandwich · 30/01/2019 17:42

That’s the shift to make which they will not accept- you are now the adult / parent.
You have the power. Struggled with that one but it’s true. 🌺🌺

Grace212 · 30/01/2019 18:01

bring hugs, so sorry you are going through this.

MereDintofPandiculation · 31/01/2019 16:07

That’s the shift to make which they will not accept- you are now the adult / parent. That's true in another sense. They're lashing out at you - try not to take it any more seriously than if it were an upset toddler speaking.

I'd find it very hard to accept being told what to do by my children. And I expect I will find it hard to understand they're doing what they think is best (especially as it will be clear to me that they don't understand the situation)

IamTheMeg · 03/02/2019 13:58

Bloody hell crazy, I could have written this email myself! I'm sorry sorry you're suffering too. I've told my parent how I feel and also taken a step back.Sad

I think we can all only do it all for so long!!!!!!

SlB09 · 03/02/2019 14:17

District nurse here and couldn't red & run. What you are feeling is so incredibly common and normal in your circumstances and we support people with this type of situation all the time.

There is lots of help out there for both your parents and yourself as a carer as pp have mentioned. Your GO surgery should be able to signpost you appropriately to services as well and social services should offer you a carers assessment in which you can discuss all of the above, entitlement to benefits etc. Your parents need help yes, but they are also adults who have to accept that they need help and most of the time the lashing out and tears/manipulation is coming from the fact that they know they can't do these things and are perhaps scared of the future and frustrated/sad at the independence they are loosing - unfortunately this all comes down on you. Your right to have a frank chat with them and usually once arrangements are in place everyone is much happier. But you need to stick to your guns and have a firm line that you hold to in respect of what you can and cannot do. If your parents can afford it, a private carer often works out really well as they have the same person who you have more scope to get exactly what you want/need and they may feel more control in that sense and be more likely to accept the help.

You are doing such a hard job and doing so well to keep going but everyone has a tipping point, you need to look after yourself so you can continue to look after them. Hugs xx

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