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Nursing home to hospital, does power of attorney have say

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40nanny · 25/04/2015 19:44

My aunt was getting carers in at home,for month& then one day she was agitated so social worker said she phoned herself into nursing home!!which my aunt would never have done this because she wasn't one for throwing money away. aunt still has my uncle at home 86 but not a nice man. The nursing home in Scotland has really bad reviews& since being in there has had urine infection,we were to phone first before visiting on several occasions!the manager was awful so abrupt& no compassion whatsoever.they took her shopping and spent £80 on unnecessary items(a £20 remnington mans razor for a start) she had to pay £15 on taxi fare on that alone,now my aunt has never in her lifetime wasted money.so you can imagine our disgust,we have only found out this as,she is now in hospital as been so dehydrated ( which my mum had to phone the doctor to go see her,)if this is not neglect I don't know what is !! she has deteriorated so badly in only 3 weeks being there.now the social worker saying if she gets better will decide where she go she has been right rotten to my mum as well.its just a mess my mum being power of attorney will she not have a say in this?no way do we want her going back there& also the new shaver was not in her belongings when we cleared everything out her room either!! Can we report this home ?and name & shame Thanks sorry it's a long story

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morethanpotatoprints · 26/04/2015 16:04

Hello my love.
So sorry you are all going through this.
I'm not sure about POA, is it the same in Scotland I wonder.
I do know there are two types, one for the social and health which is what your mum or you would need in place to make decisions on her behalf.
The other is for the financial management.
I'm pretty sure you can have both, but afair just having one does not let you make deisions on the other iyswim.

FriendofBill · 26/04/2015 16:11

You can report to CQC.
If they are spending your aunts money it all needs to be documented and justified.
Do complain.

Purplefrogeatsalily · 26/04/2015 16:16

Morethan is right- there is both welfare and financial power of attorney- possibly both are relevant here, so find out which, or if both apply.

Important to note that power of attorney only comes into effect once the person themselves lacks capacity- unsensible decisions in themselves aren't the issue, it's whether the person have the ability to receive information of the options open to them, weigh up the advantages and disadvantages to each, and reach a decision, which they communicate. I suspect your aunt does not have capacity. This would need to be formally assessed, if it hasn't already been, by a doctor, however- your GP would be a good place to start.

Goldmandra · 26/04/2015 16:22

Power of attorney cannot be activated unless that person has the capacity to authorise it or the the court of protection orders it.

I think you need to get some legal advice about this. Keep the evidence you have and look into speaking to the Care Quality Commission too.

40nanny · 29/04/2015 21:24

Thank you all for replying back,I have now reported this to care commission,about this home,they my mum being POA they should have at the least told my mum they were going shopping trip!! The shopping trip is only one of the many things that went on during a month in that home!! So it will get investigated then they let you know the outcome,I feel better that I have done this,but still doesn't make up for how much my aunt has deteriorated and gone downhill from that hellhole, makes you mad,I feel like naming this to let people know not to put there loved ones in there

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FriendofBill · 01/05/2015 23:45

There are new laws around safeguarding that are just coming in.
Does your relative have capacity?
Look here and check they are doing their bit.

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2014/23/contents/enacted

40nanny · 02/05/2015 20:48

Hi Friendofbill, thanks for that,my aunt can't even remember who has visited her in the home, when we visited in hospital,it's such a shame,she used to read a book a day & has no interest now, my mum has financial and mental &physical power of attorney. Could you or anyone tell me does the social worker overrule the care side with deciding what to do. My mum phoned for a complaint form about her,but it was as if they knew her,feels as if it's awaste of time before you've even filed a complaint,she went to citizens advice and they phoned up social worker direct!! Really it's such a stressful time for my mum as it is without that SW phoning my mum getn on to her!!can someone help?

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Goldmandra · 02/05/2015 21:04

This number is the Age UK advice line. It might be a good place to start.

0800 169 6565

40nanny · 02/05/2015 21:13

Thanks so much Gold I will phone this number and ask,my mum has enough stress to deal with just now x

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Goldmandra · 02/05/2015 21:45

I really hope they can help you. I feel sick thinking of what might be happening to your aunt.

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