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Chemistry teachers/chemist-folks: your advice, please!

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TinaTurnerBunsenBurner · 26/05/2010 19:56

My son has just turned eight, and is obsessed with Chemistry (I don't use the term 'obsessed' lightly: we are currently having him assessed for Aspergers. His obsessions last for around two years, and are completely all-consuming).

For his eighth birthday, he received a GCSE Chemistry text-book, a molecular structures kit, and a set of Top Chemistry Trumps (yes, they do exist).

He thinks and talks about Chemistry from the minute he wakes up to the minute he goes to bed. Car number-plates fit into the periodic table as he walks to school. His name can - handily enough - be made up of chemical elements. He has read a vast amount, and has retained every word (I know, because he regurgitates it for several hours a day).

The big problem is that my DH and I have neither the interest nor the aptitude to do anything much to help him. We both have PhDs, but could not be more firmly on the Arts side. So what I want to know is whether any Chemistry folks could advise us on how we can (safely) help our son to do something more practical than read about Chemistry in books? We have done every reasonably safe experiment on YouTube; he is desperate to try to put some of his knowledge into practice, but we have no idea how to go about it.

His teacher suggests that he take a Chemistry GCSE - but, again, we're rather at a loss there. Wouldn't that involve some form of practical exam and/or continuous assessment? Unfortunately his school only goes up to Y8, so I can't quiz a Chemistry teacher.

DS does evidently know an awful lot. He has accosted a Chemistry professor and a toxicologist in the playground, both of whom have been astonished by the fact that he not only knows so much but also appears to understand it (unlike his parents). I would like him to have some opportunity to do whatever he needs to do - but really need advice on how to go about it.

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AMumInScotland · 26/05/2010 20:18

A chemistry IGCSE would be an option - it's an exam of similar weight to an ordinary GCSE but can be assessed purely on an exam at the end of the course and doesn't need a practical exam or any marked coursework. You can buy textbooks for it easily enough throughAmazon or wherever, but you'd have to arrange an exam centre for him to sit the exam if you/he wanted to do that. Or of course he could just study the book and not worry about exams!

TinaTurnerBunsenBurner · 26/05/2010 20:59

Thanks, AMumInScotland. That is an interesting idea, and one I shall look into. He's already memorised the birthday text-book; I'm no fan of exams (and particularly not for small children), but DS does like having hurdles to cross. I think it's a primitive bison-slaying thing.

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mitochondria · 26/05/2010 21:39

Some websites he might like....

www.york.ac.uk/res/sots/index.htm

particularly cool is extracting DNA from kiwi fruit.

www.chem4kids.com/index.html

www.open2.net/diyscience/kitchenchaos/

www.rsc.org/education/teachers/learnnet/kitchenchemistry/index.htm

www.planet-science.com/sciteach/index.html?page=/experiment/parents.html

You could also look for some Science Fair ideas - this is more of a US thing than a UK thing, but there are some projects he could get into, for example:

www.sciencebuddies.org/

TinaTurnerBunsenBurner · 26/05/2010 22:12

Mitochondria, thank you. I shall look at them all!
Thus far, we have been to see Dr Bunhead, Brainiac and Bang Goes The Theory live. We've also been to a scintillating Chemistry museum in Widnes - that was his 8th b'day treat. , and spent a day at Manchester Science Fair. DD was not pleased.

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MrsBadger · 26/05/2010 22:36

Royal Institution christmas lectures - here

fwiw I remember the chemistry practicals at gcse (and indeed beyond) being remarkably dull and unfulfilling so I don't think he's missing much

TinaTurnerBunsenBurner · 26/05/2010 22:58

Lol, MrsB. Dull and unfulfilling is precisely my recollection of Chemistry (I never did O level as I was too bad at it). I can still remember a sentence about allotropy: I never understood it when I was 11, and I still don't understand it now. DS does, though.

Thanks for the link. Will check it out.

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MrsBadger · 26/05/2010 23:04

and yet somehow I am still in science all these years later

Jux · 26/05/2010 23:55

Is there a lower age limit for OU?

mummytime · 27/05/2010 04:52

Can you contact your local secondary or university?

My big concern is, that although your son may know all the facts, and actually being aspergers could easily know more than me; he may not really grasp the understanding. Chemistry is a very conceptual subject. The words and ideas are extremely abstract and once you understand at one level they become more abstract as you move on. (The idea that most matter is made of spaces, then that the electron isn't a little ball but a probability density and so on.)

Actually the practical exam wouldn't be my biggest worry with GCSE Chemistry, but all GCSE sciences nowadays include something called "How Science Works" and I would expect your son would hate this and struggle with answering the questions. That is because they don't deal with facts but opinion based on the social implications of science. IGCSE which doesn't have this might be better.

I would suggest you try to find an experienced Chemistry teacher, local to you, to give your son at least a few sessions of coaching, and then to advise you.

For more at home stuff, I would suggest contacting the RSC (Royal Society of Chemistry) and the British science association Crest awards.

TinaTurnerBunsenBurner · 27/05/2010 11:50

Thank you. I have tried the RSC, but have never even heard of Crest, so that is well worth investigating.

I had also wondered about the 'social' side of GCSE science. One of DS's mantras is: "I'm NOT INTERESTED IN SOCIETY". Sigh. The sad thing is that it's true, despite my best efforts.

As to the understanding: that's one reason I need to find someone who does know what DS is on about. It doesn't take much for him to know more than me about Chemistry, but I can't begin to judge whether he understands it entirely/partially/really not at all, and is merely regurgitating what he's read. I will ask at DD's school, which goes up to 18, to see if any of the Chemistry teachers have any bright ideas!

Thanks again.

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aspsieinks · 03/07/2010 01:30

I would recommend going to the local high schools and talking to a chemistry teacher to see in they would be interested in mentoring him.

littleshinyone · 24/07/2010 16:02

i'm just earwigging on lots of different threads because it's a rainy afternoon-

don't have anything constructive to add, but was just very touched by what a tiring-but-brilliant little boy he sounds like, and how lucky he is to have a mum who wants to encourage and support him so wonderfully.

i'm being very soppy about allsorts today

good luck!

LBC · 07/08/2010 15:16

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kritur · 09/08/2010 20:54

Could you perhaps get him a tutor to stretch him. I know tutors are generally used for students who struggle but they can also be used to stretch able students.

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