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Year 2 stats - what to do?

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todi · 21/05/2009 13:52

My daughter was in the top level of her class in year R and Year 1. I was informed in Janaury that she would be taking level 2 in her stats which took place in the beginning of May. I did not mention this to her. On the first day of the stats she came home crying that she was the only child from her group of 10 who did not do level 3 I tried to console her and explain that she was probably not quite ready for that level, however the tears continued throughout the week each day she asked me why she was not let try.

After the stats ended my daughter came home with the same homework as all the kids who did level 3. Last week she informed me she now wants to move to a lower table not because she can't do the work but in her words "why should I have to do the harder work but was the only one not allowed to do the harder test if I had the lower group work I would be finished quicker". How should I respond to this. Tell her bluntly that she was just not good enough stop moaning and get on with it or inform the school I would like my child moved to a lower level. To make matters worse all her friends did level 3 she had a fight with one of them yesterday and they all walked away saying they don?t want to play with a child who did level 2.

Any advise

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suwoo · 21/05/2009 13:58

All the other children sound horrible . DD is in year 2, she knows what level she did but not sure she either knows nor cares what level anyone else did. She and her friends certainly wouldn't base any friendship decisions on this.

Feel sorry for your DD, her peer group sound bloody awful. Sorry no advice though. I never give just take

mankyscotslass · 21/05/2009 14:01

If the school is making such a big thing of yr2 sats I would think very seriously about complaining. All the guidelines state that they are mostly teacher assessed, and if done well the children should not even know they are doing the tests.

DS is in YR2, the only reason I know about them at all is because he has mentioned once or twice about doing the papers in hall, and mentioned what it said on the front of the papers. School haven't mentioned them, the kids aren't bothered, and that's the way I like it. Stress free!

I admit I would like to know how he has done, but we will not here til we get his school reports the last week of term in July.

Have you explained to your DD that they are actually only a test of how well they have been taught, not ability? She is very little to be so worked up over tests.

What was said about her progress at parents evening?

Have you spoken to the teacher about this? If not then you need to do so.

I am very for your dd.

mankyscotslass · 21/05/2009 14:02

And i would have a word with the teacher about the playground stuff too.

It's bullying .

mankyscotslass · 21/05/2009 14:03

hear

mloo · 21/05/2009 14:15

That is a very strange story, todi.
DD can't even tell me what level papers she did (and I know she must have done Level 3 for at least one subject).
I'm 99% sure she has no idea who else did Level 3 paper(s), too.
I would complain big time that the school has made the hierachy between different ability groups much too obvious.

forehead · 21/05/2009 14:38

My DD took her yr2 SATS exams last week. I was under the impression that everyone took the level 2 exam and that the results of these would determine who would take the level 3 exam. Can someone confirm whether this is the case?

mankyscotslass · 21/05/2009 14:41

As far as I know the teacher decided what children are taking the level 2 or level 3 paper, based on teacher assessment. It is only meant to confirm the teachers own assessment of the childs progress.

In saying that, DS says he did one level 2 literacy paper and went back the next day and did a level 3 in literacy with another boy.

todi · 21/05/2009 14:42

DD came home in early May saying we started our stats today asked how she knew and informed me that it said on the paper, also told me that the teacher called out the 9 other kids from her group and gave them different work than her - they had level 3 and she had level 2. I thought she would not know what she was doing but it seems some of the kids in her class have been told by their parents how it works and how "important it is" to be honest I am not from his country and when I met with her teacher I have to admit did not go into details about stats as I assumed at this age they meant very little and were yet another government scheme set up to be seen to be doing something . My DD reaction has taken me totally by surprise and the fact we never mentioned stats/tests etc to her has really surprised.

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forehead · 21/05/2009 15:12

I wish the schools would be honest about how they are assessing our children and what levels they are taking. I think every child should be given the chance to take both papers. My dd is very quiet and sometimes i feel that the teachers underestimate her academic abilities. She has been free reading at home since year one and has excellent comprehension skills, but i don't think she was entered for the level 3 Reading comprehension. It seems a bit unfair to me.

Smithagain · 21/05/2009 18:26

I'm not usually a big one for complaining, but in those circumstances I'd be inclined to arrange a meeting with the teacher to explain exactly what you've set out in your OP and ask what they are going to do to get your DD back on track.

I'm astounded that they have made such a big deal of it. She shouldn't even know what level she's on - even less what level other kids are on.

Feenie · 21/05/2009 19:44

r.e. level 2/3 papers and which children take them - there is another current thread here in Primary Education on this very subject.

I am flabbergasted at the levels of importance that your dd's classteacher has attached to these tests in front of the children. In all the years I did KS1 SATs, only one child ever knew he was taking them, and that was because his parents told him. They are 6 and 7, ffs - the pressure is totally unnecessary and ridiculous.

plusonemore · 21/05/2009 19:55

sats! not stats

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