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gifted/talented kids

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pinkchez · 24/04/2009 21:23

How many parents have got kids with gifted kids?
I am setting up a support group for the kids and parents.

I have teachers doin their best to get my son labelled as ADHD etc but it isnt going to happen, he is highly gifted, his IQ is in the top 2% of the population at age 8, but this comes with some issues, he is scared of new situations, doesnt like shopping centres above ground floor, chews clothes, wont sit still, gets bored etc,
does this sound familiar?
I'm trying to establish a support group if anyone is interested?

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chocolateismyonlyweakness · 29/04/2009 14:02

Just a question to throw open to everyone - I saw a programme a while ago about measuring IQ, and a successful artist, (highly gifted), did no do well in an IQ test.

The programme makers got a group of people together: the artist, a writer and a quantum physicist among others, and none of them worked out how to get a cork out of a bottle using a teatowel and bicycle pump (only the artist got near to solving it, but she didn't have the confidence to see it through). It was a task set to demonstrate how there are different types of intelligence and IQ tests are unreliable.

So perhaps there are gifted and talented children out there who would do badly in an IQ test.

Apparently Albert Einstein failed his engineering exams and didn't say a word until the age of 4.

snorkle · 29/04/2009 16:30

absolutely chocolate. Add to that that people can achieve very different scores on different IQ tests and I agree that in many cases IQ testing isn't a very useful metric.

Remotew · 29/04/2009 18:43

Schools are supposed to look at the bigger picture when identifying their gifted pupils. e.g. cognitive ability test/IQ tests, exam results and observation in the classroom. I d'ont disagree in principle with the scheme, if they would actually do something extra with these students but they don't. Mainly the names go on a register and that's the end of it.

Snorkle thank you for your post highlighting the reasons why a certain % in individual schools should be identified. It's tiring reading along the lines of 'they would only be average in our highly selective school' etc. Also it's often not the case as some kids at the local comps have been identified based on being in the top % nationally.

frustratedmom · 03/05/2009 18:30

One thing that everyone seems to have escaped is that being labeled bright, genius, adhd, and ASD does not mean that the parent has failed in there responsiblity. It simply means that the person thinks in a different way. All ways of thinking make up diversity of society and that sometimes teachers uses labels to catch aspects that require help (and mainly money) in order to access the funds that are pigeon holed by people who would rather not splash the cash. Gifted children are failed by a system that quite frankly fails 90% of children in its current form. If a teacher thinks that a children is exhibtiing aspects of a condition that can be funded, they can use this to fund other areas which need help but are not on the criteria for extra funding. Maybe a label is the way to beat the funding system failures for bright kids?

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