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does anyone have a child with dyslexia that has to wear the tinted glasses ?

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cheeseandsproutssarnie · 04/12/2008 14:01

ds1 has over lay card but is off for test on monday for glasses.do you have to pay for these as ive heard you dont,then you do,blah blah blah.also did your dc get teased at first?and did they mind wearing them?

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solo · 04/12/2008 14:07

Isn't that called Earlings Syndrome? My niece has it. It's a type of Dyslexia that causes you to not see letters or parts of words. Her glasses were about £300 I believe and not available on NHS. She had overlays ~ gels that she put over the text to read with.

solo · 04/12/2008 14:08

Before the glasses I should have said(the overlays).

cheeseandsproutssarnie · 04/12/2008 14:10

umm they just said as part of the dyslexia he couldnt see words -black on white and they move around etc.he uses the overlay well for reading his book but theyve said its for things like reading of the board or reading things that he cant use his over lay for.-computer etc

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solo · 04/12/2008 14:24

Yes, it sounds the same. My niece was bought the glasses and lost them! not popular with her dad!
Hope your lo gets on ok. I don't think my niece had any problems with teasing. They just looked like brown tinted glasses IIRC.

stressa · 05/12/2008 09:33

Hello,
before you spend any money its definitely worth checking Ian Jordan's website www.Jordanseyes.com (or just google Jordans eyes if that doesn't work). My son has tinted lenses from him (which has helped hugely with reading) and assessment and the specs and lenses were free on NHS. The assessment method and treatment is orthoscopics not Irlens. If you phoned Ian's practice in Ayr he'd be happy to chat about pros and cons and let you know of opticians down south doing similar.

TisTheSeasonToBeSolo · 05/12/2008 09:36

That's worth knowing! I shall tell my brother...

cheeseandsproutssarnie · 06/12/2008 14:54

thanks.

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maverick · 06/12/2008 15:22

I suggest you read the following first:

dyslexia.mtsu.edu/modules/articles/displayarticle.jsp?id=49 Tinted Lenses Critique

lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2003/12/irlen_lenses_sc.html

cheeseandsproutssarnie · 06/12/2008 15:38

thankyou.very interesting.so they are saying they dont work and wont help???

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stressa · 06/12/2008 16:32

Hello again - don't know about Irlens but Ian Jordan's stuff is completely different. My life was transformed by dark green lenses (which I only needed to wear for 18 months) - I was able to see faces properly and recognise them (including my own), find my way around when out on my own and, when reading, see all the words in a line of text rather than just one. My sons can both see faces better now they have coloured lenses and youngest has found reading so much easier (the letters have stopped moving around and it no longer makes his "brain hurt" - he enjoys books now) he can also ride a bike without leaning/falling off so much. I appreciate we may be (are!) a weird family but I have seen Ian Jordan work with others - he can help a lot with dyslexia. I know I go on a lot about this (have posted on other threads in the past) but its so important. Please look at his website.

maverick · 06/12/2008 18:31

''There is an established, and very rewarding, dyslexia industry. There is considerable academic and commercial vested interest. There seem to be as many aetiologies for (causes for or origins of) dyslexia as there are researchers into it, give or take, and as many wonderfully special assessment methods, remedial schemes, dedicated schools and distinguished gurus as the market will carry'' (Hugo Kerr)

www.abc.net.au/rn/science/ockham/stories/s922638.htm

stressa · 06/12/2008 18:43

Maverick - I have no argument with what you are posting and no experience with Irlen. My sons and I have been helped greatly by Ian Jordan using orthoscopics. I would hate to think of anyone being put off seeking investigation and treatment.

ScummyMarx · 06/12/2008 18:47

I reckon these are most likely a massive scam. Is there really any evidence at all that they work? Please don't pay anyone £300. Daylight robbery.

cheeseandsproutssarnie · 06/12/2008 22:23

but surely if the over lay card helps him when reading then it makes sense the glasses would help when the overlay cant be used-like when writting?

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TisTheSeasonToBeSolo · 07/12/2008 01:10

Well, if the glasses help the wearer to read/write/learn and enjoy it all, then it's £300 worth spending. My niece got on really well with them(before she lost them). Jordans is too far away sadly. Shame because her family have just come back to the south from Scotland ~ typical!

Starmummy · 10/12/2008 09:49

I know two people who have used the colured glasses from Irlens, an adult reception teacher and a teenager. Both came on in leaps and bounds. I do know the cost was expensive but then so is not getting a decent education because you cant read properly (IMHO).

For what its worth I would investigate, I know the cost is alot but the peace of mind if it should work would be huge. Only the wearer can say for sure if it has made a difference so thats why you should give it a trial expecially if the coloured overlays are making a difference.

MotherOfGirls · 10/12/2008 11:14

We went down the coloured glasses route with my DD2 (then aged 9). They seemed to help a little. We then had an an Ed Psych report done, which established she was not dyslexic but there were issues preventing her producing work of the standard one would expect for her IQ. We were recommended to see an optician who specialises in 'tracking'. In a nutshell, someone with a problem with tracking has a longer than average gap between the first eye focussing on a word and the second eye focussing on the same word. Our optician described this as getting to the root of the problem, while the coloured glasses dealt with the symptoms. DD2 was given glasses to wear 'for everything she can touch' and some exercises. We have been back for a check up and the time delay has apparently decreased a little, so the strength of the glasses has been changed. We are seeing some improvement but it is too early to say it has been a breakthrough. Hope this is helpful.

stressa · 10/12/2008 13:30

My youngest son had an assessment at the local hospital's orthoptic dept. He had big perceptual problems - difficulty tracking and problems taking in words when more than one line on page as well as letters "moving around". We were given exercises to do (mazes etc) to help with tracking. We didn't do them as he was due to see Ian Jordan. We saw the same person at the hospital after he'd got his blue specs and she was amazed when she reassessed him as he showed no perceptual difficulties.
His coloured specs may be a crutch but at least he enjoys books now - he was really being turned off them before and I can't blame him. I don't know how long he'll need the specs but I only needed mine for 18 months.
His lenses are NOT IRLEN (sorry to shout!)
There are about 12 opticians in the UK with the orthoscopic equipment that Ian Jordan recommends - if you phoned Ian (no. on his website "Jordans eyes") he could let you know who is nearest.

bolto · 04/01/2012 22:35

This post was written a long time ago but I was just telling someone about (Earlin) Irlen syndrome and googled the spelling (dyslexic lol!) . I was diagnosed as being dyslexic in grade 4. I was tested for Earlin around that time and started with colourd transparencies. I moved on to the glasses shortly after. I don?t use either anymore but they made a big difference for me at the time. Many kids in my ?special class? also ended up with the glasses. They help people with many different learning disabilities, even a student that was severely ADHD was able to sit still and focus on a book once they found the right colour combination. ( They now make contact lenses too)
There is a book called reading by the Colours that helps people that don?t have the problem understand the what a page looks like for us (which are not all the same). I personally see rivers of white running through the page and the letters that are not in my focus would move and flip. Even swirl if I am sleepy.

If you think that you or your child may have this problem try printing a document on gray, pink, yellow and blue paper (dull seems to be better) - If you can also use a dark gray ink. If it is easier for you to read the document you may benefit from being tested. ? I have never heard of Ian Jordan's
I hope that this helps someone! irlen.com/
Sorry for any spelling mistakes!

tiredlady · 04/01/2012 22:42

Ds is 11 yo. Only started reading properly once he got his green tinted glasses. They have made a big difference to his reading ability. Definitely well worth the money

bebanjo · 05/01/2012 20:53

I am dyslexic, i used to use tinted glasses, i went shopping with a book and tried different sunglasses tell i found some that worked. ended up with a pink pare for about £3.

mollymole · 05/01/2012 21:02

I work in an opticians and it should most certainly NOT cost anywhere near £300 for tinted lenses. They cost around £60-£80 from our practice, and the lens value of the NHS voucher can be set against this cost. The eye test is free, the color overlay test is free and then if a colour overlay is needed then this is used for around 4-6 weeks to make sure there is an improvement. If this is proven to be beneficial a colorimeter test is carried out, which goes into much more complex shades of colour. (This costs £30 for those who have to pay) and nothing if they are for children. Then the lenses are put into a frame of your choice (frame cost £0 up to whatever you want to pay - your choice). BENANJO - fine if it works for you, with a simple colour, not so good if you have a complex colour combination.
I have seen people who have benefited greatly from this type of lens, children and adults.

Kensingtonia · 06/01/2012 11:58

My DD had a assessment at the Dyslexia Research Trust in Reading a few years ago. I think they carry out research into Irlens Syndrome. At the time I believe the assessments and tinted glasses were free (although we paid for an appointment as there was a waiting list). My DD has dyslexia but not Irlens Syndrome. I used to work with a woman whose daughter has Irlens but was not diagnosed until her late teens; she was written off as a low achiever, so it is worth ruling out.

Mimme · 23/01/2012 20:12

I took my 11 year old daughter, (whom I have had concerns about regardiing her reading fluency and spelling for some time) to a specialist behavourial optometrist in Quorn near Loughborough last year. He was reccomended to me by a friend.

I found him to be very good and throrough. He did various checks, that previous opticians did not seem to do, he also prescribed her a pair of glasses with what he called a prisn to help her eyes work better togther and also a pair of lilac overlays - He wrote a report to the school and also gave me a copy for my reference - a few months later, he called us to ask how things were going and suggested we return back for further tests - he then made some glasses with coloured lenses: I've seen my daughter's reading fluency and concentration improve even more since then.

He said my daughter suffered from 'visual stress' (not dyslexia) but did recommeded I see an educational psychologist to check that there was no underlying learning difficulty either. Everything including all the tests, coloured glasses, overlays, reports etc cost me around £250. I'd have to say its the best £250 I've spent on my daughter in a long time.

Their website is quite informative if anyone needs more information:

www.dyslexia-eye.co.uk/

www.visualanswers.co.uk/vision.htm

www.s4clp.org/

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