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Exclusion - Tribunal

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Deborahf · 12/03/2003 15:42

It's been a while since I last posted here hoping for some constructive advice on behaviour difficulties with my ds. Since then, my ds (aged 7) has been permanently excluded from his school. We have just gone through the school discipline committee meeting, where the govenors upheld the headteachers decision. We are appealing to an independent tribunal and hope to have the decision overturned. I was wondering if anyone else has experience of the system and how they coped. Has anybody actually won at independent tribunal?

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Kyliebump · 05/04/2003 20:56

That's so fantastic Deborahf - I'm so pleased for you and your family!!!

Do you know if the LEA are going to move forward with the statutory assessment as part of the re-integration plan? It might be worth suggesting this as an idea at a re-integration meeting. The statutory assessment doesn't necessarily have to result in a statement, so if all the strategies, support, drug treatment etc mean that he doesn't need a statement after all then fine, they don't have to issue one, but it might make the school feel that there is a bit of a 'safety net' that if extra support is required through a statement, the process is already underway. Not sure that makes sense, and the important thing now is to feel really proud of yourselves for fighting your Ds' corner for him. Hope all goes well with the re-integration planning - let us know how he gets on.

Once again congratulations, I'm so pleased for you!

GRMUM · 06/04/2003 06:50

Great news Deborahf,and even more so because your son is looking forward to going back.Hope that the school approaches this in a really positive way too.Well done!

robinw · 06/04/2003 09:11

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Deborahf · 06/04/2003 10:12

Kyliebump - thanks for that suggestion. When we have the multi-agency meeting (which should be sometime during the coming week - I hope)then I'll mention that as a possibility. Our request is being reconsidered at the end of the month anyway because of the new information of his diagnosis and the various treatment strands.

Thanks to everyone for your kind thoughts. We all realise that it's going to be tough for our DS, but his doctor and we believe that if he succeeds at this school it will be so much better for his self-esteem. Will let you know how it goes.

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Kyliebump · 06/04/2003 22:08

Hi Deborahf - just a thought before your planning meeting next week, and please don't feel that I'm telling you what to do or how to act - it's just my opinion!

I've found in meetings like this that schools can be really really defensive - after all, they've basically been told very publically that they did not act properly, so it's an understandable reaction. The worst thing that can happen is to dwell on what the school didn't do as this can result in them not wholeheartedly working with the re-integration and setting him up to fail so that if they go down the exclusion route again they will be making the point that they were right in the first place - if you see what I mean.

Be really positive about your DS going back there (after all, the school should see your appeal as an indication of how much you want him to go there). Emphasise how much your DS wants to go back, so despite the difficulties he's had there he must have had some positive experiences. Acknowledge that there have been difficulties but keep to the perspective that you're not looking back - the re-integration is about moving forward.

What's really important is to find things that will be different when he goes back, so the school don't think that they are in the same situation as before - if nothing's changed then what's going to make things different this time? For example if the drug treatment is having benefits for your DS that could be it, if other agencies are going to become involved then focus on that, if the statutory assessment is going to begin then that's another thing. Do you see what I mean (it's late on Sunday and I'm past it!).

What I'm trying to say is to focus on the positives, acknowledge the difficulties and emphasise the things that will be different when DS goes back.

I've been to meetings like this that can start out a bit defensive, but by the end can be really positive having worked out a plan to support a child.

I really hope your meeting goes well, and again I hope you don't think I'm interfering!

Deborahf · 07/04/2003 16:10

Hi Kyliebump - thanks for all your very helpful information.

We know that there are going to be difficulties when our DS goes back to school, but we are going to concentrate on the fact that he really wants to be back there with his friends and teachers. The reintegration meeting is likely to be after the Easter holidays to allow all people to attend. This is probably for the best, although I'd love him to be back now - but I know that things need to be planned carefully. I need assurances from the school that they fully understand ADHD and its requirements. Also, I want to make sure the DS has settled properly into taking the tablets.

Still the main thing is to look forward and for us all to work together to ensure that DS's return to school is as smooth and easy as possible for all concerned.

Once again, thanks for your thoughts.

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Jaybee · 30/04/2003 14:02

Deborahf - just noticed on another thread that your ds' reintegration meeting is this afternoon - I followed this thread but not feel I knew enough to comment or offer advice - just wishing you well.

Deborahf · 02/05/2003 21:45

Hi Jaybee - thanks for the thought. I thought I'd let Kyliebump know too that the meeting went well. My DS goes back to school on Tuesday - initially for 4 half-days (afternoons) a week with one to one support. There will be a review just before they break up for half-term and hopefully we will be able to increase the hours after that. DS is really looking forward to going back, he is,naturally, rather nervous but he's keen to see his friends. It's going to be tough for all concerned, especially as his year are doing their SATs this month! I'll keep you posted on progress.

Thanks to all for support, advice and suggestions.
Regards Deborah

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Kyliebump · 02/05/2003 23:16

Hi Deborah,

I'm so glad the meeting went well - sounds like a sensible step to go back gradually - less daunting than going back full time. I think it's fantastic that he's so much looking forward to going back - much credit to you for not turning him against the school when you must at times have had very negative feelings about them!!

I will be thinking of you (and your DS!) next week and hope that his start back at school goes well and that his hours can be increased asap.

Thanks for keeping us informed - I wanted to post and ask how it was going but didn't want you to feel under any additional pressure!

Deborahf · 06/05/2003 21:26

Hi all - just a quick note to report DS had his first day at school today. it was very successful - a welcome back card from one friend, an invitation to one of his friends next week and us having some friends over next week. I know that things can change quickly, but we're hopeful. The Headteacher has been very good at letting everyone know that Ben is back and everyone is looking forward to seeing him. Once again, thanks to all for your support.

Regards
Deborah

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ScummyMummy · 07/05/2003 08:02

Fantastic news, Deborahf. So glad the school is rallying round and really giving Ben a proper chance to succeed there. Hope he continues to enjoy it.

Can I just say that I think you've handled this situation absolutely brilliantly, by the way? Ben is a very lucky boy, I think. Many parents would have just "given up" in despair and let the LEA take over. I really hope I will be able to support my sons as well as you have if and when a similar situation crops up for them. You're a star.

Deborahf · 07/05/2003 14:32

Thanks Scrummymummy - that's so nice to hear. It's been a hard few months - I've broken out in stress excemza, put on several stone (comfort eating) and generally feel shattered. But's it's been worth it - he had such a good day yesterday and was actively looking forward to it again today. Still that might be the novelty factor )

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Kyliebump · 07/05/2003 23:40

Hi Deborahf - really good to hear that things are going well for your Ds. My Ds is also called Ben, so now I feel an even stronger affinity for your little one!!

Even if the first few days are a bit of a 'novelty factor' it doesn't matter. Any positive experience of school is a good thing, and can be 'banked' to remember if he has a not so good day - if you know what I mean. Hope all continues to go well.

tigermoth · 08/05/2003 10:30

glad your son likes being back at school deborahf - what a lot of invitations, too. It sounds like he has some really nice friends there, which must help enormously. Hope things continue to go well.

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