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Where are the grammar school areas?

62 replies

compo · 21/09/2008 11:07

I thought it was just Kent and Devon that still had the 11+.
Am i wrong?

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jimjamshaslefttheyurt · 21/09/2008 11:10

see here

LIZS · 21/09/2008 11:11

Bucks and Lincolnshire do

FeelingOld · 21/09/2008 11:54

Definitely Lincolnshire cos thats where I live

compo · 21/09/2008 11:55

it seems odd to me that some places have the 11+ and some don't

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AbbeyA · 21/09/2008 12:00

Salisbury, Reading, Penrith, Lancaster-just off the top of my head.
It isn't odd-they were all supposed to go comprehensive but some places managed to retain them. I am very thankful that we moved to a fully comrehensive area before the eldest got to 11yrs.

wheresthehamster · 21/09/2008 12:02

Essex has a few - Southend area and Chelmsford are two towns that I know of

LucyJones · 21/09/2008 12:03

it seems to be a good idea if your dc are bright enough to go to them , but not if they aren't

RustyBear · 21/09/2008 12:09

Reading only has one boys'& one girls' grammar which have their own different entrance exams, rather than a borough-wide 11+
There used to be a couple of schools that selected a percentage on academic merit - not sure if they still do.

SlartyBartFast · 21/09/2008 12:12

but even if they are bright they need coaching, i believe, to get in, and you have to pay for that, so it is totally unfair, imo

psychomum5 · 21/09/2008 12:13

we have grammar schools in bournemouth and poole (dorset).

RustyBear · 21/09/2008 12:13

DS got in without any coaching, he just did a couple of practice papers, which cost about £10 iirc.

AbbeyA · 21/09/2008 12:18

I think that is the way that it should be done RustyBear-just a couple of papers to get the feel and then he is obviously bright enough if he passed. It shouldn't be done through excessive coaching IMO.

mote · 21/09/2008 12:20

Trafford, near Manchester.
Birmingham has the King Edwards Foundation with several schools.

solo · 21/09/2008 12:23

Is it that some areas call it the 11+ and others call it selective testing?

Reallytired · 21/09/2008 12:29

Kingston-upn-thames have Tiffans boys and Tiffans girls schools. Watford, Hertfordshire has Watford boys, Watford girls and Parmitars.

The problem with grammar schools is that the state school kids have to compete against those who have been sent to prep school. Its not a matter of passing, its a matter of being in the top 90 out of how ever many of thousands of children who take the exam.

I would like a system of where the bottom 20% of children were removed from the comprehensive system and had lots of resources thrown at them rather than removing the top 20%. You could have a mixture of units with mainstream schools were the nice but illiterate kids could be intensively taught to read and the kids with terrible behaviour sent somewhere else where they can't wreck anyone's education.

Then the 80% of kids without learning difficulties could make good progress.

beautifuldays · 21/09/2008 12:30

rugby does, so does birmingham

bagsforlife · 21/09/2008 12:34

Gloucestershire. Grammar schools in Gloucester (2 girls and 2 boys), Stroud (one of each), Cheltenham (one mixed). But v g comprehensives too.

solo · 21/09/2008 12:35

Reallytired, that is a great idea, but totally politically in correct. It's the ones with bad behaviour that would draw attention to that fact too.

One of my local schools has a 'Grammar Stream' within it. Sounds like what you are talking about...

solo · 21/09/2008 12:35

incorrect

charmander · 21/09/2008 12:41

London Borough of Bexley

compo · 21/09/2008 12:42

not heard of selective testing, what's that?

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solo · 21/09/2008 12:47

Same as 11+ from what I know. My Ds has just done both this past week for two different areas.

compo · 21/09/2008 12:48

so if he passes he goes to the 'good' school and if he fails goes to the local comp?

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solo · 21/09/2008 12:50

ie, one area called it 11+, the other selective testing. So it would be selecting the children for grammar education through testing.
I remember it being called the 11+ when I was at school...long ago!

ByTheSea · 21/09/2008 12:52

Colchester has two excellent grammar schools.