am i allowed to get my daughter class changed for next year....

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dd's new teacher is very shouty and loud which dd-10 struggles with.... she doesnt need this kind of teacher , she loves going to school and very much enjoys learning in a clamer environment..... but now says if she has this teacher she would rather leave the school and her lovely friends and start a new school (where i know the teacher could be just as shouty)

all year dd has spoke about not wanting this teacher who she has experienced lessons with... and now out of the 4 possibilities she has got her...

i have spoken to her teacher tonight... who didnt sound very positive at changing the classes

can i insist she gets moved or is it tuff she gets who she gets? do i have any rights or not?

Is there another class she can move into then?

tbh I would be worried about what kind of message you are giving her. She will be in secondary school soon and she will have to cope with a number of teachers with a variety of teaching styles I would imagine

yes there are 4 other classes....

i did discuss the secondary school bit with her...

I don't think that you can insist.

I don't think you can insist on it, sorry. I have the same for my Ds next year. His new teacher has had a personality by-pass and is very shouty.
He isn't looking forward to it, but we will have a chat about different people and keeping his head down and his nose clean.
I think I am going to wait and see what happens, and take her as I find her. We were told the teacher he had this year was very strict and shouty, but he has loved her. Once the class lists are out I would imagine it would be a logistical nightmare to move people round.
I feel your pain

I don't know your rights but I would leave it tbh. You only know that this teacher is 'shouty'. That doesn't make her a bad teacher.

I would be wary of letting your dd think she can get her own way in situations like this.

so what happens if everybody asks to swap

you can ask

I don't think you can/should. You don't really know how your dd is going to get on and it does send the wrong message to your dd. There will be NO choice at secondary school.

My dd didn't 'want' her teacher in Y4 but once she got used to her and her rather quirky sense of humour she had a great year.

I don't know abut yur "right", but I would ask if there is a spare place in the other class (Is there a parallel class or would she have to be in a different year group). If there is then I think it would be more than reasonable for your DD to move. There is no wasy my DS could cope with a shouty teacher, and I know from experiance he just wouldn't learn.

If she has to be in a different year group, then things could get very complicated.

I wouldn't say something about it until/when/if you can go in with a specific problem regarding dd and the teacher.

You have nothing to go on atm only a general impression.

I would give her a chance at least before wading in. It won't come over too well to dd either as a way of handling stuff like this. Sometimes you have to cope working alongside people you don't much like. It's life.

Anyway she might rather like her once the dust settles.

I would leave it. My ds has just finished a year with a teacher that he was convinced was 'the scariest teacher in the school.' It has been his favourite year. His teacher does shout but all the children seem really happy in that class.

"if there is a spare place in the other class....then I think it would be more than reasonable for your DD to move"

So what if everyone else in that class decides they don't like a 'shouty' teacher? - would it be reasonable for them to move too?

You may be surprised at how it pans out, her demeanour may vary according to situation, and at that age surely they have several teachers .

My ds had a shouty teacher last year. He loved her. There were plenty of mothers who had specifically requested not to have this teacher for their child. At a minimum it's worth asking, in case there are kids in other classes who would prefer this teacher. It's also worth talking to the head, or whomever made the decision to put your dd in this class and ask why they made that choice. They may have a specific, rational reason for doing so.

Sorry, but you have no "rights" on this one. How could it possibly work that you did? Staff spend a great deal of time compiling classlists to ensure a balance of gender, ability, friendship groups etc... and there would be chaos if parents regularly came in to demand their child switched because they didn't like the look of the teacher. IME, the head might consider switching a child, but only in extreme circumstances, and this one doesn't sound as if it would qualify.

My dd is dreading a teacher for next year, but we will not know until next Friday.

She was frightened of having the deputy head for ICT but has been fine.

Same thing has happened with ds2. There are two teachers per year group - one (the one ds1 had) is lovely and I was really hoping ds2 would have her too. The other is really shouty - I've spent the odd afternoon in her classroom and come home with a headache every time. Ds2 is frightened of her and was upset yesterday to find out he will be in her class.

But I wouldn't dream of asking for him to be moved. It would be different if, when he is actually in her class, he is genuinely unhappy or I feel she is treating him unfairly (have no reason to think she would do this, btw, she seems to yell at everyone pretty much equally). If that happens I will go in and talk to her. They are going to have teachers they don't like (and you don't like) through their school career. I'm doing my best to reassure ds2 that she isn't really so bad, that some teachers are just shouty, and that her bark is worse than her bite - and we're going to give her a fair chance.

She is incredibly shouty though - so I do sympathise with your daughter's feelings about her teacher.

tbh I don't think any school in their right mind would even consider this. If you asked for your child to be moved because of an issue with the teacher's teaching style, if they complied then that is as good as an admition that there is an issue.

Plus, would you expect another child to be moved in order that your dd not have to go into that class? Because I would be more than a bit pissed off if my child was moved out of his class to accommodate a child whose parent was unwilling to allow them to learn to adapt.

thanks all for your opinions... i have taken it all on board...

There are spaces in all the other classes so no one would be moved to accomodate her...

I know about the various issues involved with her moving.....

and i just wanted to know if i can have a say about her teacher.. if i dont then i accept that i dont...

I will discuss further with my dad next week who is a teacher and will advise me honestly..

thanks again

I think you would at the very least have to come up with a reason why your dd cannot cope when the other children in her class will still have to. They obviously can't move the lot of them-somebody has to be with this teacher. And they will have had their special reasons for the way they have arranged their class list.

So has your daughter got SN of any kind? Autism or ADHD? Sensitive hearing? Emotional problems? If there is anything like that, then I would bring it up- but phrased in a positive way. If not, then I imagine they would mentally shrug their shoulders and think 'why not her as soon as somebody else'.