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Another quite tricky maths problem: re area

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Bink · 03/07/2008 09:53

Challenge: sketch a cuboid with a total surface area of 600 cm squared.

(Note: not a cube.)

By trial & error ds and I found a solution that gave us 598 cm squared (and I can sort of see with some millimetre-fiddling we could have got it up to 600, but we were tired out by then) - but, O maths genii, does it have to be done by trial & error - or - can you devise a formula to produce the set of potential answers?

Virtual bottle of champagne (or even real , should we ever meet) to anyone who can do this!

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 03/07/2008 10:01

ok -
cuboid has two of each face. Each face has two dimensions and there are 3 dimensions overall - a b c.

So 2ab+2ac+2bc=600
ab+ac+bc=300

Now you can choose two of your dimensions and let the third be the variable one.

So I randomly chose a=10 b=5

Which gives you (plugging those into formula)

50+10C+5C=300
which is
15C=250
C= 16.67cm.

You can do that for any a and b.

hope that helps.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 03/07/2008 10:02

pssst.
I love champagne

Bink · 03/07/2008 10:18

Goodness me. Thank you, and thank you especially for setting it out so clearly - ds will be delighted.

plus, necessarily, an IOU for if we ever meet!

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 03/07/2008 10:28

very nice champagne - thank you!

OhYouBadBadKitten · 03/07/2008 10:28

btw - you and your son are very welcome

Bink · 04/07/2008 10:33

Just a further update ...

Ds said your solution was "the cleverest formula I've ever heard": a very happy boy!

Inspired by it (this is the whole point of formula-thinking, I think, that you then hit on your own), he then produced this [h means "height", w means "width", d means "depth"]:

d = ((area divided by 2) - hw) divided by (h + w)

so let's say (this was his example) h and w are both 5; area is 600 of course

ie d = (300 - (5 x 5)) divided by (5 + 5)

so d = 27.5

(This is better for my brain than any amount of Wiiiiii training)

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 04/07/2008 10:56

awww thats brilliant I'm really impressed that he then took it further so he had his own work to take in - tell him hes a fab lad!

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