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Edmund Waller Primary School or Haberdashers Hatcham Primary school?

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Sims1703 · 22/01/2026 09:56

Hi all. I’m considering both schools for my children who are in year 1. If anyone has any experience with either schools, could you please share your opinions? Thanks in advance.

edit: It’s Hatcham Primary on Hunsdon Road not Hatcham Free School.

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13RidgmontRoad · 22/01/2026 18:04

I’d choose Waller, of the two. The Hatcham catchment is, to use the abiding language, “mixed”, fair amount of behavioural nonsense and a very strict / structured approach - though some parents love it.

Waller is chaos on a stick but warm, loving, with experienced teachers, an amazing school site and lots of heart in the form of PTA etc.

I have experience of these + HFS so feel happy to comment.

Sims1703 · 22/01/2026 21:29

@13RidgmontRoad Thank you for your response. I actually prefer HFS but unfortunately, there are no places available. I’ve heard good things about Edmund Waller too, with my colleague mentioning it has a strong community feel. However, I’m not keen on the fact that they don’t have a uniform.
Out of curiosity, are there often behavioural issues at Hatcham? And do you know how they handle issues like bullying? Just trying to get a clearer picture. Thanks.

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13RidgmontRoad · 22/01/2026 21:39

Sims1703 · 22/01/2026 21:29

@13RidgmontRoad Thank you for your response. I actually prefer HFS but unfortunately, there are no places available. I’ve heard good things about Edmund Waller too, with my colleague mentioning it has a strong community feel. However, I’m not keen on the fact that they don’t have a uniform.
Out of curiosity, are there often behavioural issues at Hatcham? And do you know how they handle issues like bullying? Just trying to get a clearer picture. Thanks.

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Both the Habs primaries use a (slightly out of fashion now) behaviour system / classroom management system where students move up or down a visual chart (sun, rainbow, clouds, diamonds, whatever) depending on behaviour during the day. It has obvious drawbacks, but imo it is a harder sell at this Hatcham because overall behaviour is poorer - there’s more crowd control come KS2 and just that many more parents who aren’t very invested. I haven’t heard of any bullying and expect it would be tackled pronto. Clubs / AFS provision is great.

I know of four families now who’ve moved from Hatcham to HFS as places came up. In each case they mentioned vast differences in behaviour from one to the other.

wtftodo · 22/01/2026 22:16

I’m a current parent at Hatcham primary with 7yrs experience of the school, and honestly, this description bears no relation to what I know of it, and my children’s experience of it. It’s an absolutely fantastic school, warm, fun, with high standards and aspirations for all kids. The head and teaching is great. Fab extracurricular clubs, mostly free, and easily accessible wrap around care. The senco and general approach to behaviour and sen is excellent, with lots of information and opportunities for parents to understand more about how it works eg zones of regulation etc. Easy access to sensory space, fidget toys, accommodations as needed.. It’s honestly a nurturing, inclusive and progressive environment with excellent outcomes for all kids. Yes rain clouds in KS1 but think that will be on the way out soon if not already gone; in any case most primaries do still use this.

They have been very strong on bullying (and pastoral care / education in general) imo. I’ve flagged something small with one child in reception and the school was already on it in a surprisingly proactive, progressive way. And the teacher nipped something in the bud early on re a different child in y4 before we even knew.

It is a genuinely mixed school across multiple metrics and this is a huge plus for us, not something to fear. As a result, not in spite of this, a huge proportion of the parents are engaged and academically aspirational. My kids are lucky to go there.

I know many parents at both hatcham primaries and have never heard of any child moving from one to the other. I’m sure it must have happened but it certainly isn’t common! I know that there have been disruptive kids arriving into HFS (not from the other Hatcham) in older year groups.

I also know people with kids at Waller who are happy, it’s also a lovely school, also with great art and music like Hatcham, great outside space. I know parents who’ve moved their children from Waller, too, to both Hatcham primaries, citing concerns around the academics mostly. These are particularly able kids though and I know other v bright kids there whose parents are happy.

In reality, all these schools are good schools and there won’t be much between them, however they present themselves - “strict”, “traditional”, “creative”, “progressive” etc. They will
all have some challenging behaviour, which most children will be unaffected by, and some parents will love and others critique them.

The most valuable thing is how close you are to the school… it’s a gift to have a decent school on your doorstep so personally I’d go for the closest one.

Sims1703 · 23/01/2026 09:55

@wtftodo Thank you for your response. Both schools are within the same distance from our home.
My main concern with Waller is the academic aspect. I like that Hatcham is quite academically focused but I also believe there should be a good balance. Currently, my children’s school emphasises outdoor play, which they love but I don’t feel that they’re pushed academically, and I get the same impression from Waller. They do enjoy Forest School and would miss it if they moved to Hatcham, as that’s not offered there.

Would you say the school can be a bit strict or highly structured at times? I’m trying to understand the overall atmosphere.

Also, I’ve heard that school trips are funded by the federation, so parents aren’t asked to pay. Can you confirm if that’s true?

Lastly, my son is very athletic and I was wondering if Hatcham has boys’ football or basketball teams?

Thanks again, I hope you don’t mind all the questions.

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wtftodo · 23/01/2026 17:06

Hi, of course and please feel free to DM me too (I might be slower by dm though).

I've never had to pay for a school trip at primary - didn't realise this isn't standard? Any clubs run by teachers (the majority) are free, any by outside providers are subsidised so for eg £50 per term for gymnastics.

There's successful football teams run by Mr S who's a teacher and sports coach, and lots of sports clubs incl basketball. He's taken teams to watch the football at arsenal (men and womens I think) and also they link up with Millwall's community charity who run lots of opportunities and also free football and basketball clubs in the holidays. Mr S runs a holiday sports club too.

My kids each had a term of nature club at Besson Street Gardens, think it was in yr 4, they did alternate wednesday half days for a term. They've also done gardening clubs etc. The school has ducks too. No forest school though it's true.

I think the school has clear, firm rules - which are great for my sensitive, anxious child as well as my rambunctious child - but within that they're very warm and suppportive and fun.

I'm sure all of this is true for Waller too.. Might be worth looking on the respective websites for the weekly newsletters (I did this when I was deciding) which gives you a sense of activities as well as approach, while nonetheless remembering schools "market" themselves in a particular way - the creative one, the pushy one, etc.

Good luck!

trustedadult · 23/01/2026 17:12

Neither, both have terrible drug problems

Sims1703 · 23/01/2026 20:22

@trustedadult ???

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Sims1703 · 23/01/2026 20:24

@wtftodo Thank you, I’ll do that.

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