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11+ CEM TEST NEED ADVİCE PLS!!!!!!!

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mommyofthreeSE · 16/11/2025 06:26

Hello,

My daughter will take the CEM assessment for City of London School for Girls. For example, The test will have around 138 questions, and she is supposed to finish them in 60 minutes. If she runs out of time, should she guess the remaining questions in the last minutes, or does the school consider the wrong-answer rate?

For example:
If one child answers all 138 questions and gets 87 correct,
and another child answers only 100 out of 138 questions and gets 85 correct,
which child will receive the higher score?

Thank you.

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CrikeyMajikey · 16/11/2025 07:48

If it’s like the 11+ test in Bucks then it’s multiple choice and kids are advised to fill in remaining questions to answer as many questions as possible.

mommyofthreeSE · 16/11/2025 09:59

Thank you @CrikeyMajikey For example, my daughter tried it (CEM test) on Atom and got 87 questions correct in a 60-minute test, but she also guessed about 20 questions randomly. I’m not sure if she should do that — In test there were 138 questions and in total she answered 121 questions.

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easytoremember · 16/11/2025 19:39

The technique we practiced, was that if she had literally no idea how to approach the question, to skip it within the first ten seconds so as not to waste time. Thankfully, this wasn't too often, but at the beginning she would be spending a minute on a question like this and getting it wrong anyway, so I knew that was something we had to work on. So my advice - if you don't know about to approach the question in a very short time, make an 'educated' guess, and move straight on.

I also sat with her with a timer and we had a forty five second rule - if she hadn't answered the question within 45 seconds, she guessed and moved on, no matter how close she was. That got her speed up. It really worked. I know I probably sound mental - 😂- but I'm a teacher and had the whole summer holidays to do a little each day.

Atom, which you have, is a brilliant platform for this sort of speed practice. There is also Pretest, but it's incredibly expensive and a lot of it is much harder than the real thing and can be demotivating. What Pretest does have that is invaluable, however, is the Missing Words section, which Atom does not provide at all, unbelievably. I say unbelievably because it's a massive part of the test. I'd definitely get some practice on that one.

That's if the test your daughter is sitting is the same mine did - CEM Select Insight.

easytoremember · 16/11/2025 19:42

Sorry, and to answer your actual question (!) the child with the highest number of correct answers will be ranked higher. No penalties for incorrect answers.

mommyofthreeSE · 16/11/2025 20:05

Thank you all

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mommyofthreeSE · 16/11/2025 20:09

What confuses me is that my daughter answered correctly 87 questions in 60 minutes, yet her standardised score was only 103 (avarage). Normally she is performing well above average in all tests and her last year GL scores are above 137. So how many correct answers are they expecting in 60 minutes? I just hope they don’t evaluate it the same way as Atom does.

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easytoremember · 16/11/2025 20:18

mommyofthreeSE · 16/11/2025 20:09

What confuses me is that my daughter answered correctly 87 questions in 60 minutes, yet her standardised score was only 103 (avarage). Normally she is performing well above average in all tests and her last year GL scores are above 137. So how many correct answers are they expecting in 60 minutes? I just hope they don’t evaluate it the same way as Atom does.

It's hard, but I learned quite quickly to completely ignore the Atom SAS score as it's really unreliable / off / nonsensical, and like you've seen with your daughter often ludicriously below reality. Perhaps partly because of the Atom cohort (many higher ability / heavily tutored childred making up the numbers) skewing things and deflating the scores?

Anyhow,I focussed simply on the number of correct questions and used that as our measure. I would have gone mad otherwise.

Florencesndzebedee · 16/11/2025 20:22

Look in the elevenplusexams website for all things CEM and discussion of individual school entrance exams.

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