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What to do with a bright child?

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Mumanddone · 06/09/2025 12:38

I will be accused of bragging but I really am looking for genuine ideas here please.

4yo DD has started reception. She is in a private school. She can read fluently, writes and her maths skills are great. She is basically bilingual. She carries a conversation like a grown up - she’s hugely imaginative and great fun to talk to. She’s not some prodigy - she’s actually a bit of a silly little girl prone to not listening but she is objectively very very bright.

When I observe her peers, I don’t feel like they are on the same wavelength for the most part. Some of them are barely able to string a sentence together and they still seem to have very infantile form of expression. DD makes friends easily and is happy to play with anyone but at the same time - will this hold her back?

we decided for private school to boost her, but wondering if this is enough. I suppose there is a sliding scale to private education. Are there places better suited for her? Or is there something we should be doing to support her at home/ outside. She does the general run of clubs ie: drama, swimming etc.

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DeafLeppard · 07/09/2025 15:35

I think at this age “bright” generally means that their parents have exposed them deliberately and repeatedly to things that the parents perceive to be good - reading lots of books, museums etc, rather than any innate ability. All children are sponges at this age, and will absorb whatever is put in front of them, whether it’s Paw Patrol or Euclid’s Elements.

I would also hazard a guess that it’s not unusual for a child to figure out the rudiments of phonics by being read to and following a finger underneath the words. Once you’ve done that it’s a small leap to reading.

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 07/09/2025 15:37

Mumanddone · 06/09/2025 15:49

Her teacher has had her on year 2 books since last year but at home she reads anything and everything. She is pretty much fluent I’d say. A sight reader and most words don’t phase her apart from very tricky new ones and place names that she may not have heard of. She also reads with the right emphasis and dramatic effect which I think is nice. Teacher has said it’s exceptional but definitely not ‘unseen’.

You could teach her to use “faze” instead of “phase”.

Poppins21 · 07/09/2025 15:39

MumOf4totstoteens · 07/09/2025 15:24

You know we all think our kids are gifted and talented right? I would focus on not comparing your child to others. Rather take advice from their school and what the government state as mile stones. Even if she is advanced, this isn’t America where a young Sheldon type can get moved up grades or to university at 12. Suppose if you’re utterly convinced she’s gifted, you could ask the school to refer her to Mensa . That’s what happened to my friend’s sister when I was at school many moons ago!

I agree everyone does and should think their child is amazing but if your child is “gifted and talented” it can be very obvious and it can be difficult to talk about IRL as people think it is bragging. The OPs daughter is in private school so there is many more options to support her abilities than in state school - so moving years can be an option.

CeciliaMars · 07/09/2025 15:39

Unless it’s a selective private school, the kids won’t be much different to the spread of children in a state school. In fact, in my experience as a teacher in both state and private primary schools, more parents of children with additional needs are turning to private. Allow her to be a kid and love life. Play lots. Read lots. Nurture her interests. She’s probably not as unusual as you think.

Thelandlordsdaughter1 · 07/09/2025 15:41

Don't brag about her abilities to anyone and everyone who will listen. Don't send round Robin's at Christmas about her many achievements. Or compare your other child to her if you have one. Teach her humility and resilience, I've met so many people who were overachievers as children who lack resilience and are averse to any form of failure.

Poppins21 · 07/09/2025 15:42

DeafLeppard · 07/09/2025 15:35

I think at this age “bright” generally means that their parents have exposed them deliberately and repeatedly to things that the parents perceive to be good - reading lots of books, museums etc, rather than any innate ability. All children are sponges at this age, and will absorb whatever is put in front of them, whether it’s Paw Patrol or Euclid’s Elements.

I would also hazard a guess that it’s not unusual for a child to figure out the rudiments of phonics by being read to and following a finger underneath the words. Once you’ve done that it’s a small leap to reading.

I think there is something to be said about the exposure to reading, museums etc that some children have. As they get older you can see the difference between hot housed kids and bright kids as they have critical thinking abilities well above average.

Poppins21 · 07/09/2025 15:43

Thelandlordsdaughter1 · 07/09/2025 15:41

Don't brag about her abilities to anyone and everyone who will listen. Don't send round Robin's at Christmas about her many achievements. Or compare your other child to her if you have one. Teach her humility and resilience, I've met so many people who were overachievers as children who lack resilience and are averse to any form of failure.

Grit - the number 1 predictor of success (according to a ted talk I watched on YouTube) but 100% agree.

CecilyP · 07/09/2025 15:44

Well, nothing seems to have held her back so far, so there's no need to assume that being around less able children will do so in future.

giftedbrother · 07/09/2025 15:46

Hedgehogbrown · 06/09/2025 22:26

I think when people make comments about letting her be a child, they don't know what it is like to have a very clever child. My child is 2 and can read, do maths, knows the planets, countries etc. he hasn't been hot housed. He is very clever and curious. The fact is that their class mates will bore them and they won't really get anything out of spending time with them to be honest. I wish they had maths club for toddlers, or I wish he could go to school with 5 year Olds. At the very least, the teachers should be challenging children like this so they don't get bored. Not sure what to suggest.

Edited

I do. I am plenty bright, but was privileged to help bring up my profoundly gifted DB.

Although he had slightly delayed speech, his intelligence was apparent in other ways from before he was a year old. Having been self conscious about always being at the top of my class, I wanted him genuinely to enjoy a variety of people whilst being comfortable exercising his gifts. Our family cared very much that he have a sense of humour and good values.

So he always did sports, at which he was mostly average. He stood up for others from a very young age. His best friends in the late primary years were cool boys with a completely different outlook on life.

This may have taught him more than staying at the top of his class all the way through a rather well known PhD dissertation (in his field). But probably not as much as taking apart and putting back together our family’s first desktop computer, all by himself, age 7-8.

I would feel a failure if DB thought people boring because they were less intelligent. Obviously plenty of people are boring, but some of them are quite intelligent.

Poppins21 · 07/09/2025 15:50

giftedbrother · 07/09/2025 15:46

I do. I am plenty bright, but was privileged to help bring up my profoundly gifted DB.

Although he had slightly delayed speech, his intelligence was apparent in other ways from before he was a year old. Having been self conscious about always being at the top of my class, I wanted him genuinely to enjoy a variety of people whilst being comfortable exercising his gifts. Our family cared very much that he have a sense of humour and good values.

So he always did sports, at which he was mostly average. He stood up for others from a very young age. His best friends in the late primary years were cool boys with a completely different outlook on life.

This may have taught him more than staying at the top of his class all the way through a rather well known PhD dissertation (in his field). But probably not as much as taking apart and putting back together our family’s first desktop computer, all by himself, age 7-8.

I would feel a failure if DB thought people boring because they were less intelligent. Obviously plenty of people are boring, but some of them are quite intelligent.

I agree whatever you do in life you will be surrounded by people with a range of abilities and being able to navigate this successfully is important.

Oaktopus · 07/09/2025 15:50

I really wouldn't over think this. She sounds a fairly bright happy kid who's either keeping up with her milestones or exceeding them, which is excellent, and as others have said, not that unusual for bright girls.
With a highly intelligent child you tend to see some asynchronous development, and sometimes it's really marked, and if it is they tend to be identified as ND and diagnosed with condition/s, rather than being deemed 'gifted' as was common in the past, hence why people are mentioning this.
A friend's niece was super precocious with reading, language, and social skills at a similar age - supposedly she could even use sarcasm - and the whole family declared her a genius. By the time she was in her teens, she was much closer to average and her slightly older brother, who had always seemed to be in her shadow, was the one who was excelling at school!

ScrollingLeaves · 07/09/2025 15:54

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 07/09/2025 15:37

You could teach her to use “faze” instead of “phase”.

You could teach her to use “faze” instead of “phase”

‘Faze’ vs ‘phase’

Whether a typo or a word the OP doesn’t happen to know about, what you said seems like it could be a sarcastic and aggressive way of trying to pull down the OP. I hope I am wrong and you did not mean it that way.

FallingIsLearning · 07/09/2025 15:56

Mumanddone · 06/09/2025 12:52

Could you give some examples?

I’m not the poster you are addressing here, but these are my thoughts.

My daughter is similar to yours - bright and an only child. She is coming to the end of primary, so we are part-way through the journey of her childhood.

The other learning that school provides is in navigating difficulties. We always think about social learning as developing skills for sharing and compromise in early years, but the challenges that they may encounter at school help develop the ‘soft skills’ that are actually much more important to success and happiness in adult life than academic brilliance.

My daughter has had a couple of periods of bullying. This is not something that any parent would want for their child, but, now that she has come through them, she is very much stronger and more resilient. She has learned that not all comments need to be taken to heart. She is secure in her self worth as she learned that, whilst some people were treating her appallingly, she had a strong group of friends within and outside school who very much valued and supported her. She has learned to be able to recognise her own emotions and to deal with them. She has always been a sympathetic soul, but it has also built her empathy in a different way. She learned to reflect on what underlying factors might cause people to behave so awfully to another human being, and to understand that usually bullies are not evil, but that it is an expression of difficulty that they are experiencing. Happy, secure people do not tend to bully others.

Just this week, she had a frustrating afternoon where none of the boys she was working with would listen to her solution for a task, and she had to wait until all their ideas had failed before they would listen to her. I think a lot of us would recognise the situation of being the invisible woman in a meeting. You would hope that things have changed for her generation. People should expect for their voice to be heard and their opinion to be appropriately weighed. However, this difficulty is helping her build her ability to assert herself appropriately and to influence the room, which is vital for all of us in adulthood.

In terms of a more conventional answer to ‘other learning’ - broaden rather than accelerate her learning. I do not believe in an ideal set of extra-curricular activities to develop a child. There is no recipe for success. Foster her interests, and give her opportunities to try lots of different things to see what she enjoys. Anything she wants to do will have some learning involved, but the aim of the game isn’t to see hobbies as educational opportunities, but instead chances to find things that she can be passionate about, maybe even for the rest of her life.

For my daughter, this is a musical instrument, dance, a team sport and running. All of these have helped her develop grit and discipline. I hope they are helping to build a growth mindset - she can look back on how she has improved over a period of time and see that effort pays off. They help build resilience and help prevent a fear of failure. So you didn’t get the result you wanted in the last game or competition? Why was that? If it was something that you could learn from, brilliant. If it was out of your control, don’t worry. The world hasn’t ended, nothing terrible has happened. It’s OK. They build team working - committing to a joint goal, supporting your friends and learning to trust and rely on others.

The most important thing about all these activities though is the sheer enjoyment I see on her face when she is running down the wing, or soaring across the stage. I hope that something will stick as a lifelong joy. Something she can turn to to sustain her when life gets tough.

In terms of your worries about the choice of school…

I am not saying this to undermine your assessment of your child’s intelligence, but ability at the start of school doesn’t always indicate their ability later in their schooling or as an adult. Learning isn’t linear. In this respect, single children may have an ‘advantage’ early on. They are more used to having to interact with adults, so you would expect their conversational skills to be better, and possibly also the vocabulary they use. They don’t have siblings to compete with, so our time can be poured into them. Resources don’t have to be shared and there is perhaps more opportunity for them to access enriching experiences. I come from a large family, and the breadth of my daughter’s cultural experiences are very different from what my parents could possibly have provided for me.

Obviously, this does not mean that all early bloomers also wither quickly. Your daughter may stay high achieving right through post-graduate studies. I did. However, through my own career and through my work supervising junior colleagues, I firmly believe that, given a certain level of intellectual ability (which honestly isn’t that stellar), the ‘soft skills’ that I describe above are much more important than academic brilliance.

So be kind to yourself too! Don’t stress about the choice of school. It sounds like it’s a good environment for her. I’ve said this before, but across my four siblings: one went to an academic private school; the next went to the worst school in the borough; the youngest two went to a super-selective grammar. As we are all approaching the latter part of our careers, I can honestly say that we have all been equally successful, with no discernible difference based on school. The home environment is probably more important. Looking back, our home was full of love. We all ate together as a family and talked. As one of the younger members of the household, I was included in conversations and not talked down to. My parents were interested in education and had high expectations, but they were not pushy. The house was full of music and books. Back in those days, we could roam the woods and get into little situations that we would have to solve. A lot of these things are trumpeted as things that lead to success. I don’t know how true this is.

I think the most important thing is the basis of love and security. Firm planting and patient nurturing rather than anxious hot-housing.

Mumanddone · 07/09/2025 15:57

ScrollingLeaves · 07/09/2025 15:54

You could teach her to use “faze” instead of “phase”

‘Faze’ vs ‘phase’

Whether a typo or a word the OP doesn’t happen to know about, what you said seems like it could be a sarcastic and aggressive way of trying to pull down the OP. I hope I am wrong and you did not mean it that way.

Edited

There’s been a few sarcastic and passive aggressive messages in this thread which has really taken a life of its own. I never expected this and feel almost sorry I asked. To those who have been generous with your answers: thank you. I’ve taken lots on board including chess (we love a board game but haven’t tried chess), music lessons and some of the other skills you’ve mentioned. Lots of fantastic ideas here. Apologies that I can’t thank you all individually. The mean spirited ones will soon be forgotten.

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PloddingAlong21 · 07/09/2025 15:57

Focus on social skills, not academic. Just let her be 4, she sounds like she’s doing really well.

Academically smart people don’t automatically become big money makers later in life (depending on how you define success). They tend to be the people with high emotional intelligence more often than not, or depending on field, a combination of IQ/EQ.

Wemetatascoutcamp · 07/09/2025 16:03

If you’re looking at long term success, university, successful career etc you need to develop a broad range of interests not just concentrate on the academic side. When DS18 was looking at universities we spoke to a couple of different admission teams- they all said there would be 100’s of academic students with excellent grades but they wanted to know that students could cope with university life so wanted students with a wide range of extra curricular interests and experiences outside school too.
My older children all did sports (swimming + 1 other) and scouting/guiding from a young age. As they became older they all had part time jobs. We’re not hugely musical but an instrument is definitely a great skill to develop. As others have said- travel is also a great experience for young minds.

CoffeeCantata · 07/09/2025 16:09

I agree with lots of answers here.

And if you’ve got the dosh, to be honest, private education is best left to secondary. Unless the primary school is awful for some specific reason, bright children won’t lose out at a state primary, backed up by supportive parents providing a range of interesting experiences and encouraging them to follow their interests. Mostly you’ll be able to help her with the curriculum at that level, which won’t necessarily be the case at secondary school. Lots of reading, discussion, writing with a purpose, learning how to find things out, watching grown-up (they’re pretty dumbed-down nowadays anyway) TV documentaries on history, natural history and science etc are all going to stretch her.

if I had the money I’d use it to ensure her secondary education isn’t messed up by disruptive classmates.

Pigtailsandall · 07/09/2025 16:14

Mumanddone · 06/09/2025 12:38

I will be accused of bragging but I really am looking for genuine ideas here please.

4yo DD has started reception. She is in a private school. She can read fluently, writes and her maths skills are great. She is basically bilingual. She carries a conversation like a grown up - she’s hugely imaginative and great fun to talk to. She’s not some prodigy - she’s actually a bit of a silly little girl prone to not listening but she is objectively very very bright.

When I observe her peers, I don’t feel like they are on the same wavelength for the most part. Some of them are barely able to string a sentence together and they still seem to have very infantile form of expression. DD makes friends easily and is happy to play with anyone but at the same time - will this hold her back?

we decided for private school to boost her, but wondering if this is enough. I suppose there is a sliding scale to private education. Are there places better suited for her? Or is there something we should be doing to support her at home/ outside. She does the general run of clubs ie: drama, swimming etc.

My child could read quite fluently beyond their years - they are also bilingual - and do sums and substractions etc at 4. They also had a great understanding of abstract concepts which the teacher specifically noted. Now, at 6, the gap is closing. Sometimes it's the individual development and the highs and plateaus in it. Just keep doing what you are. Mine was slower at physical stuff like learning to scoot, bike, swim etc so we concentrated on those and now that gap is closing too.

Newmeagain · 07/09/2025 16:19

@Mumanddone i have not read the whole thread, but I think that while encouraging her, you should not make her feel like she is better than her peers. Ultimately children develop at very different rates.

My dd was one of those children you describe as being behind. There was nothing about her that showed to others any signs of brilliance!!! She was a slow burner and at primary school I think some teachers thought she far from bright. Everything changed at secondary and she became a top student at a very selective school.

lifeonmars100 · 07/09/2025 16:23

I could read when I was four, I am not especially bright and did not go on to achieve much in life. It was just a fluke, not an indication of future brilliance although I was always top in English throughout my otherwise unremarkable school career. Let her just be herself, let her enjoy being a child, it flies past so soon.

the7Vabo · 07/09/2025 16:25

Pigtailsandall · 07/09/2025 16:14

My child could read quite fluently beyond their years - they are also bilingual - and do sums and substractions etc at 4. They also had a great understanding of abstract concepts which the teacher specifically noted. Now, at 6, the gap is closing. Sometimes it's the individual development and the highs and plateaus in it. Just keep doing what you are. Mine was slower at physical stuff like learning to scoot, bike, swim etc so we concentrated on those and now that gap is closing too.

I think they say by 8 you can’t really tell which children read first.

OP it’s great you are interested in Dd, but she’s a child not a project.

I’m similar to you did very well in school and I’m frustrated career wise. You choose to be “just a teacher”. There’s nothing wrong with being a teacher. The girl who consistently came top of my year and was super super bright is a primary school teacher.

What is the end goal? To ensure your daughter is a doctor, senior lecturer etc? That won’t necessarily make her happy. I have a job that sounds good, as my degree and I hate it.

If you aren’t happy in your career why not focus on changing that?

By the sounds of things your daughter is fine, she doesn’t need anything more at 4.

lauram31 · 07/09/2025 16:25

As a mum of two SEN children just coming to say ….

eldest DYSLEXIC , ADHD , ASD TRAITS , congenital birth defect to left arm . Was told in primary he needed to go to a special needs only provision and that he wouldn’t ever even take GCSEs , last year he came out with A*, A, B,B,C,C,C,D he’s now studying A levels in England - we are wales , and just done A,B,B in first year and on target for A and B grades ….. your child may be “ gifted “ now at the age of four but all I can say is things change and you’ll never predict the future as you can see from the above ^^ , she is 4 years old , give her the chance to grow , learn alongside peers , nurture her and allow her to be the age she is . In the long run from what I’ve read of your post , being the pushy parent will not get you anywhere whatsoever , and it will more than definitely ostracise you and potentially her with her peers as she grows ( parents talk , children listen and take back to school ) , you have talked so negatively about other children , those children have parents who love them irrelevant of being “ gifted” or not , quite honestly you need to take a step back and evaluate the important things in your child’s life I feel quite saddened to read your post and some of the things you have written , i also have a 4 year old diagnosed autistic who starts on slow transition tomorrow of 2 hours a week , he’s very delayed and has had a well 4 years since birth of hearing impairment , been through sepsis where we nearly lost him twice for a long term bacterial infection , and now awaiting surgeries for various things , he’s “ infantile “ and delayed , “ #DIFFERENTNOTLESS . please adjust your way of thinking for the benefit of your daughter .

ISpyNoPlumPie · 07/09/2025 16:28

Both our kids (primary age) are bright. Early readers, excel academically. They love chess, music (piano, guitar, woodwind), and languages. One is also very sporty but we encourage them both in sports they enjoy (tennis, gymnastics, dance, martial arts, athletics). It sounds like you do a lot anyway. I think there can be a bit of a levelling out as they get older so there’s no massive need to push and it’s good to stay with peers if your child is happy.

Both my DH and I were bright and we did well but my parents in particular were very poor. So our outlook is that we value academics but not over other aspects of development/learning. With your support and interest you’re opening doors (doors I never had open to me growing up), not setting the path. That’s how we see it anyway. I would prize their happiness or contentment over anything else. And she’s happy so there’s nothing to do, in the best way.

CoffeeCantata · 07/09/2025 16:31

Newmeagain · 07/09/2025 16:19

@Mumanddone i have not read the whole thread, but I think that while encouraging her, you should not make her feel like she is better than her peers. Ultimately children develop at very different rates.

My dd was one of those children you describe as being behind. There was nothing about her that showed to others any signs of brilliance!!! She was a slow burner and at primary school I think some teachers thought she far from bright. Everything changed at secondary and she became a top student at a very selective school.

My daughter was similar. She was very slow at learning to read and write and (bless her, she was born on 30:August) lagged behind in primary school. But we supported her and gave her lots of stimulating experiences and talked to her about all kinds of things. When she got to 14 something just clicked and she became really successful at school.

Catsandcannedbeans · 07/09/2025 16:34

With kids who get things easily and academic stuff just comes naturally it’s really important to teach them perseverance. We missed the ball with this with DD who is now 6.

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