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What has been the most important school subject in your adult life?

226 replies

OneUmberJoker · 31/08/2025 18:28

Maths

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Aria2015 · 04/09/2025 13:02

Maths and English

SpanThatWorld · 04/09/2025 13:41

taxguru · 04/09/2025 08:22

Latin was very common if you go back to before the 1960s/70s reorganisations. If you're talking about the national curriculum, you're not really going back that far at all.

I did a bit of historical research of our village's "free" grammar school, dating back to the 1700s and 1800s - funnily enough they didn't teach English and Maths - that was regarded as the parent's job. They taught science and classics, free of charge.

It was very common in grammar schools.
Most children didn't go to grammar schools.
None of my family who attended primary-only schools, rural Scottish comprehensives or inner city secondary Moderns did any Latin at all.

taxguru · 04/09/2025 15:52

LegoPicnic · 04/09/2025 12:35

Latin was very common if you go back to before the 1960s/70s reorganisations.

Only in certain types of schools. My mother, who went to a secondary modern, never studied it. Neither did her parents, who left after primary school.

My father and his parents, who all went to grammar / private schools, did study it.

I’m surprised at how many people on MN have studied it, though, as it really wasn’t a common subject for state schools in my area in the 1980s / 1990s. Perhaps privately educated people here are in the majority.

Our son did it at a state school a decade ago. Some schools still offer it. I suppose it depends on the local demographics. There are no private schools in our immediate area so the kind of pupil who'd otherwise have gone to a private school will go to a state one instead. It was the only school in our area to do it. There is another across the county border in the next city along that still offer it.

taxguru · 04/09/2025 15:53

SpanThatWorld · 04/09/2025 13:41

It was very common in grammar schools.
Most children didn't go to grammar schools.
None of my family who attended primary-only schools, rural Scottish comprehensives or inner city secondary Moderns did any Latin at all.

"Most" indeed didn't go to grammars, but depending on the year, there were periods when a third went to grammar with 2/3rds going to secondaries. Maybe not "most", but a third is still a significant proportion.

AgeingDoc · 04/09/2025 16:08

Maths and English in terms of every day life. Professionally speaking, I think Physics was my most helpful A level.

Gwenhwyfar · 04/09/2025 16:09

None of them really.
I have obviously used reading and writing in my life and primary school level maths.
I did languages at school, but I could have started them afterwards.

I wasn't given the option of doing Latin unfortunately.

Gwenhwyfar · 04/09/2025 16:11

"’m surprised at how many people on MN have studied it, though, as it really wasn’t a common subject for state schools in my area in the 1980s / 1990s. Perhaps privately educated people here are in the majority."

There are lots of posh people on MN, but it's also a generational thing. My comprehensive school still had Latin lessons (in the lunch break I think!) until just before I started in the late 80s. My parents were able to learn it.

mamagogo1 · 04/09/2025 16:13

From school nothing specific, just literacy and numeracy. My degree was more useful as we were taught balance sheets

EBearhug · 04/09/2025 18:13

My state comprehensive offered Latin to A-level - I left 1990, there was a class the year below me, too. I think it was a relic from the grammar school; only the top set were offered it in year 9 (or 3rd year as we called it.) A choice of Latin or German. The next two sets had German, with no option of Latin, and lower sets had no second language at all. I think that reflected how it had been at the secondary modern. Our longer serving teachers had come ftom the grammar and the secondary modern between them, though I think the Latin teaching was new when I started lessons; she may have been an NQT. If not, she was certainly early career. For A-level, it was all over at the boys' school. (They shared a lot of subjects at A-level.)

DontGoJasonWaterfalls · 04/09/2025 18:20

Welsh. I grew up in a monolingual English household; becoming fluent in Welsh through school made it much easier for me to learn French at secondary school and to learn other languages as an adult, as well as the benefits of being fluent in Welsh living in Wales.

Sourisblanche · 04/09/2025 18:27

Geography which led to a Geology degree and a Geoscience masters. Then an international career. I always loved glaciated valleys, river beds and fossils as a childSmile

Mumski45 · 04/09/2025 18:31

Maths by far but second would be writing skills so English. I’m glad I’m at the end of my career soon as AI will soon make me redundant.

ImthatBoleyngirl · 04/09/2025 18:54

English. Everything else was a waste of time.

DPotter · 04/09/2025 19:02

Maths & English without a doubt. Once you have those you can do anything

SpanThatWorld · 05/09/2025 07:22

taxguru · 04/09/2025 15:53

"Most" indeed didn't go to grammars, but depending on the year, there were periods when a third went to grammar with 2/3rds going to secondaries. Maybe not "most", but a third is still a significant proportion.

But not all of that third would have studied Latin. My husband was at grammar school from 1959 and said only the top stream did Latin. I also did Latin, albeit in a feral inner London comprehensive in the 1970s. Both of us feel that its influence on our later learning or careers was marginal.

But, annecdata aside, your initial post said that "back in the day everyone learned Latin". There was literally no day in which everyone or even the majority of people in England learned Latin. It has always been a minority subject available in a subset of schools. There was probably a 20-30 year period in which it was thought to be a key part of the curriculum for people who were likely to be progressing to professional careers.

You also say that 2/3 went to "secondaries". The central purpose of the 1944 Education Act was to ensure that everyone went to secondary school. Grammars are secondary schools. The tripartite system was grammar, secondary modern and secondary technical.

Precision in language is so important.

curious79 · 05/09/2025 07:25

Impossible to answer. Everything contributed to a rounded sense of who I am and what I know and how I address problems and approach work in my adult life

BlueandWhitePorcelain · 05/09/2025 10:28

SpanThatWorld · 05/09/2025 07:22

But not all of that third would have studied Latin. My husband was at grammar school from 1959 and said only the top stream did Latin. I also did Latin, albeit in a feral inner London comprehensive in the 1970s. Both of us feel that its influence on our later learning or careers was marginal.

But, annecdata aside, your initial post said that "back in the day everyone learned Latin". There was literally no day in which everyone or even the majority of people in England learned Latin. It has always been a minority subject available in a subset of schools. There was probably a 20-30 year period in which it was thought to be a key part of the curriculum for people who were likely to be progressing to professional careers.

You also say that 2/3 went to "secondaries". The central purpose of the 1944 Education Act was to ensure that everyone went to secondary school. Grammars are secondary schools. The tripartite system was grammar, secondary modern and secondary technical.

Precision in language is so important.

Edited

The majority didn’t get an education for centuries; but those who did get an education, the priests and aristocracy would have done Latin, from the time of the breakdown of the Roman Empire onwards. My degree was Latin from fourth century BC up to Thomas More - we read works by all the famous historical figures, such as The Venerable Bede, Charlemagne, Heloise and Abelard, the Carmina Burana, Gregory the Great, Erasmus, Petrarch, you name them to Thomas More’s “Utopia”. Latin was the language of diplomacy in the times of Elizabeth 1st.

Even after that time, boys who were educated in the public schools up to the 20th century, did Classics.

My great grandfather, his three sisters and his father went to a grammar school in Victorian times. They all went to university. I don’t know if they did Latin or not, but it was required for entry to Oxford.

My grammar school did Latin O and A levels. I don’t remember specific criteria for it, but those who did it, were reasonably good at MFL.

magicscares · 05/09/2025 10:32

Drama & English. Drama teaches interpersonal skills, how to observe, share & interact with others. It builds confidence & communication, fun, varied & increasingly creative as you progress.

Titasaducksarse · 05/09/2025 10:32

Keyboard applications. I learnt to type on a proper typewriter and then touch typing. I reckon it's saved me hours of time!

chippylips · 05/09/2025 11:09

SlippySausage · 31/08/2025 18:40

Latin and music. And I was shit at both. Latin helped me understand the meaning of loads of words. Music because I ended up in the arts.

Same here. Latin was a bedrock.

LegoPicnic · 05/09/2025 12:41

Genuine question for everyone who is saying how useful Latin has been - what has it actually been useful for?

I’ve never felt disadvantaged by not having learned Latin at school - I work in a field where a few Latin terms are used, but they were easy enough to pick up - so wondered what I am missing here!

Hoppinggreen · 05/09/2025 13:12

LegoPicnic · 05/09/2025 12:41

Genuine question for everyone who is saying how useful Latin has been - what has it actually been useful for?

I’ve never felt disadvantaged by not having learned Latin at school - I work in a field where a few Latin terms are used, but they were easy enough to pick up - so wondered what I am missing here!

For me it was helpful with learning other languages but also in general knowledge and science because a lot of words have latin routes so if you know Latin you can work out what things are if you don't know. For example when I worked at a Pharma company despite having no medical training I could figure out a lot of technical things from knowing Latin

LegoPicnic · 05/09/2025 13:50

That makes sense - I can actually see how Latin would be useful in medical / pharma. I think in my area Ancient Greek (which I also didn’t study!) would probably have had a similar advantage.

I do have a good knowledge of French, Spanish and Italian so perhaps that’s why I don’t notice the lack of Latin so much!

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 05/09/2025 14:14

What was Latin useful for:

  • Learning 4 other languages.
  • Coping when I landed a job in Italy pre-internet days knowing 'ciao' and 'spaghetti' and nobody else spoke English in the company... they all thought it was hilarious that I could speak a very odd Latin/Italian combo (my colleagues had all studied Latin).
  • Pretty much every job I've ever had it has been handy as some point.
  • Both degrees and other qualifications it has been very useful - so many terms come from Latin and much easier to remember when you understand the translation.

DD's comp does Latin GCSE and A level - I was genuinely rather heartbroken that she didn't want to study it.

PocketSand · 05/09/2025 15:08

Prior to going to university to study sociology at undergraduate and masters level, I did a medical secretary diploma that not only taught touch typing to 80 wpm but also shorthand to 120 wpm plus first aid and general biology and Latin to understand commonly used prefixes and suffixes used like hyper, hypo, ectomy, otomy, ology as well as roots so that I can easily understand that histology was study of cells but hysterectomy was removal of uterus, sigmoidoscopy is examination but sigmoidectomy is removal etc. You really don’t want to get your transcription wrong!

My life didn’t turn out as expected but practically the med sec qualification plus my degrees has helped me be a better advocate for my disabled DCs.

I would also liked to learn practical skills of DIY for house maintenance and car maintenance. Gardening and food growing. Physical health (rather than competitive sport) and well-being including meditation.

Teaching for the skills employers need is shortsighted - we need to teach how to be competent individuals, relational partners and parents.

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