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Child not in education failed manage move.

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LeapingSpice · 11/08/2025 19:02

I thought i would come on here as a last resort. my daughter has been in school A for all of year 7 and the start of year 8, but she was having a hard time at school after witnessing a traumatic event, bullying, and was travelling far to get to school, and most days she would just refuse school because she hated it.
We applied for a transfer to school b, but because they were full it turned into a manage move. My daughter was at school b from March 5th to June 20th, and she made new friends, got onto the dance team, improved her grades, had 100% attendance, and the school was closer to home.
Unfortunately on June 20th the school phoned me and said she had failed her manage move, because of lateness. My child has a problem with punctuality that i am working on with her, but she struggles with her mental health a lot especially when at school.
She had been late to avoid going to form where some girls had been giving her trouble and she had to sit next to them, but she had been to her pastoral multiple times about this asking to move forms and nothing happened.
I have appealed the failed manage move, contacted local governors, emailed and called both schools multiple times and had no help getting her back into a school, and right now she is not registered at any school. She has taken accountability for where she has went wrong and is willing to put in 100% effort to change that, but she desperately wants to be back in school b. Any advice would be appreciated

OP posts:
Lightuptheroom · 15/08/2025 01:39

@trentino who at the local authority would do this? The local authority doesn't provide a brokering service between parent and school when a managed move is unsuccessful, the schools are advised to notify the local authority but even this doesn't always happen (I spend many hours chasing managed move paperwork) and the child would return to the originating school.

As I've said before, managed moves are a school - school agreement, local authorities are not involved in any way other than keeping a log of where a particular student is and the associated paperwork.

OP's daughter was never on roll at School B, the local authority has no obligation to put her back in School B at all, the best currently the OP could hope for is that the deregistration from School A can be reversed. School A can take the daughter back in these circumstances particularly if they are undersubscribed. OP unfortunately has muddied the water with the deregistration as it removes the obligation of the local authority and School A to even accept her daughter back.

The education inclusion team wouldn't be able to reverse a schools decision either, the managed moved has failed.

The only way for OP to be given a place at School B for her daughter would be through the In Year Admission process, which, if unsuccessful or refused gives the parent the right of appeal.

The bottom line is that managed moves carry no 'right' to be admitted to the managed move school at all. They can fail for all sorts of reasons and the managed move school isn't required to justify those reasons to a parent. It would have been for School A to potentially broker and discuss with School B, for whatever reason School B have terminated their involvement in the process.

Portofuno · 15/08/2025 17:57

prh47bridge · 14/08/2025 23:43

You are the one who is not correct, as is clear from your attempt to shift your ground.

The actual wording is, " A managed move is used to initiate a process which leads to the transfer of a pupil to another mainstream school permanently". A managed move starts the process of a permanent transfer. It is not a permanent transfer in and of itself. There is nothing in the wording of this section of the guidance that prohibits a trial period. And up to this point you have insisted that trial periods are not lawful. They clearly are.

Challenging a school that has failed to follow non-statutory guidance will get you precisely nowhere. If a school is persistently ignoring guidance, Ofsted may consider if it indicates wider issues, but they won't mark a school down simply for ignoring guidance if there are no other issues. And there is no-one parents can go to who will enforce non-statutory guidance. The ESFA, the LA and the courts will not be interested.

I have absolutely not shifted ground, I am just pointing you to government wording which you are clearly choosing to ignore - alongside the Schools Admission Code regarding removing a pupil from roll. Documentation issued by the government states that trial moves are not allowed in managed moves and managed moves are permanent moves. Challenging an unlawful removal from roll should absolutely be encouraged to support a parent, but if you want to let schools disregard government guidance and do as they please to the detriment of children and parents, then carry on.

prh47bridge · 15/08/2025 23:30

Portofuno · 15/08/2025 17:57

I have absolutely not shifted ground, I am just pointing you to government wording which you are clearly choosing to ignore - alongside the Schools Admission Code regarding removing a pupil from roll. Documentation issued by the government states that trial moves are not allowed in managed moves and managed moves are permanent moves. Challenging an unlawful removal from roll should absolutely be encouraged to support a parent, but if you want to let schools disregard government guidance and do as they please to the detriment of children and parents, then carry on.

No I am not choosing to ignore the wording. You are. There is nothing in the guidance to schools that states that a trial is not allowed for a managed move. Even if there was, schools can ignore non-statutory guidance regardless of my views on the subject. But there isn't. You have failed to identify anything in the guidance to schools that says that a trial is not allowed as part of a managed move.

RattyMcBatty · 16/08/2025 08:13

LeapingSpice · 14/08/2025 17:15

i don’t want her returning to school a for a number of reasons.

Well then, elective home education is the answer, surely?

Camera21 · 16/08/2025 08:43

You are the parent. Not the school. You are aiming at the wrong thing here. If your daughter is constantly late it’s your responsibility and there are consequences, which regrettably you’ve hit up against.

They have a limited amount of options to offer you and when those are are exhausted you can’t expect the to magic up something special for you when they have other children to support and are usually stressed and overworked by issues like this.

LeapingSpice · 16/08/2025 11:57

i have home educated her before, but like i said previously i have multiple other children, and i am mentally and physically unwell, it wouldn’t workout at all.

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spanieleyes · 16/08/2025 13:08

You don’t want school A, School B don’t want her , you don’t want to EHE, so you have 2 options

  1. try again for School B-apply/ appeal for a place ( depending on whether they have existing vacancies) and see if they refuse under Section 3.10
  2. try for school C, an alternative school where there are vacancies
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