All 9s at GCSE….

[CurlewKate]

Less than 1.5% of candidates get all 9s at GCSE. I wonder why so many of them seem to be Mumsnetter’s children! 🤣

So you withdraw this assertion?

"IGCSE grades are also 2 levels lower than GCSE.
So GCSE 7 = IGCSE 9.
So those expensive private schools are allowed to give their students a much easier ride. Gov won't allow state schools to do the easier IGCSEs.
Active discrimination towards state school students."

Because you now admit that you only examine two subjects.

Ah, so people that don't know the subjects, people that just crunch the numbers?

That's a bit like letting a statistician decide what punishments should be based on the crime statistics.

You're VERY invested in wanting IGCSEs to be seen as harder than UK GCSEs. Maybe the question of why should form part of your analysis. Possibly your little Johnny isn't the prodigy you thought he was.

I'm happy to teach and examine both. And also confident in my long experience of both.

Your logic is not rational.
If students don’t get 100% in an exam that is because its
harder or
everyone is not clever

if students in another exam do get 100% that is because
it’s easier
or everyone is super clever

You seem to think rather bizarrely that students don’t get high grades in iGCSEs because its easy
That's completely illogical

Still waiting for some published evidence though. Always an open mind

No, it's a misunderstanding of how grades are awarded.

There was a formula for calculating which percentage of students achieved a grade 9 in the new GCSE and it wasn't based on standard of answer.

Well a PP said her daughter who did iGCSE Biology had covered some of the A Level content that was new to GCSE students

In History the level of response and question types is much more advanced for iGCSE than GCSE

No, but they're probably not the ones posting their childs grades

Not harder.
Although some subjects may be in either GCSE or IGCSE. The same goes for different exam boards which some students find harder than others.

You, however seem to not appreciate the difference and are making blanket statements based on nothing other than your own marking in limited subject areas on very limited student papers.

As we all know
Grades are moderated. In the end it’s all equal.
Or should be now that there is less course work accepted for GCSEs

It is completely accepted, however, that in many iGCSE subjects the course content is greater to allow for an easier transition to A levels. In an exam situation that mayor may not be relevant after moderation.

It is logic. If you get a high score with a low mark, you are getting an inflated grade.

If 60% is a 9, that isn't good.
A 9 should be 90 or 100%.

This thread is fascinating

(Ponders the misunderstanding of criteria referencing vs norm referencing)

Oh dear god.

Agree.
The same goes for maths and Chemistry ( according to my sons, who had friends enter their school at sixth form after doing GCSEs ) . The school had to do extra catch up classes for the GCSE students to cover the subject areas they had not previously covered. The iGCSE students didn’t need to.

Because
The iGCSE content was greater covering some of the Alevel content that GCSE students didn’t cover.

Students do the Internationals because that’s what their schools offer because they are Internationally registered. That’s it.
It’s not a competition 🤣🤣

Thank goodness there are others that actually deal with the grading.

Really concerned for students who rely on examiners. Let’s hope parents all take note and pay to get their kids exam grades double checked.
I would after this thread

With thanks to @LeakyRad just loving your gif

Are you trolling me.
I haven’t said I paid for education

I know, right?????

You, despite your infinite experience in this area, don't appear to know how grade boundaries are set.

@IAmNotASheep Can I raise you a facepalm 🤦🏻‍♀️?

This is a wonderful thread.

1270 students got all 9’s in their GCSE’s.

83 % in one Mumsnetters school
46% in another
545 in another (or is that the 46% one as well?)
Another Mumsnetter’s DS and 15 of his mates.

I mean it’s a while since I got a grade C in O level maths, but that’s not adding up to me.

Some do as for them it's a much higher achievement in many cases.

What I'm saying is OP just wants to have lols at the expense of others. You cannot really say "autistic ppl are a tiny minority in the population, why is it so many of parents of ASD children on MN?" but you can perfectly say that about high achievers and then the fun of bashing starts while you sit there with an innocent look on your face "oh, where is the bashing, I didn't notice anything?"

🙂

I’m distinctly middle-aged and a product of a non-U.K. education system, but I remember having “norm-referencing” for grade boundaries explained to me prior to my GCSE-equivalent exams at 15/16, and having no trouble grasping the concept. But, I must confess I haven’t marked 800 papers so what do I know 🤷🏻‍♀️

Since you’ve given these figures i can’t resist. Let’s see if we can get to 1270

83% = 1054.1 students
46% = 546.1 students
we’ll ignore the 545 as it could be that 546.1 above ( they are quite close)
DS + his mates = 16

TOTAL = 1616. 2 ( feeling a little sorry for that 1/5th of a student but that’s a detail 😆).

Conclusion
Obviously students could be from all years
None of them went to my boys school as it’s 100% 15 grade 9s every year so move out of the way everyone else
or
Mumsnetters have very engaged and intelligent kids.

Westminster pupils gain 99% 9-7 'A' grades in 2024 GCSEs

117 pupils received at least ten 9-7 grades, of whom 94 achieved just 9/8s, and 43 just 9s

Their year group is about 150-180?
I'd imagine that a very significant proportion of Westminster Mums are on MN, so why so surprising?

Clearly leaky you don’t need a UK education to be getting a 9 in sarcasm 👏👏👏

@CarefulN0w

are you referring to this post? PP didn't say 83% of students achieved all 9s. They are saying that 83% of all grades achieved were 9.
These are different statements.