All 9s at GCSE….

[CurlewKate]

Less than 1.5% of candidates get all 9s at GCSE. I wonder why so many of them seem to be Mumsnetter’s children! 🤣

My key point was about the iGCSEs and their content vs GCSEs. Once GCSEs removed coursework around ten years ago and became much more rigorous, most private schools moved to iGCSEs. State schools were not allowed to.

I thought that it was iGCSEs which were more weighted to final exams? And old GCSEs which previously had more coursework - then as you say, that changed 10 years ago so that they are now more similar to iGCSEs.

I'm only going on basic google search results for that info though.

Tedious to see the state school bashers arriving….
Caveat. If there has been private school bashing and I missed it-that’s tedious too.

It’s really boring. I was hoping to see a conversation about expectation vs reality and people’s experience, not this bore fest.

what state school bashing are you talking about?

Everything I've written has been entirely to give balance against previous comments putting down private schools.

If you can list any comment from me where you don't think that's the case, tell me which and I'll point out which one it was in response to.

You are probably referring to me but I am not bashing state schools - more the system (funding, teacher retention etc). The poster who I was having a heated debate with actually seems to agree with me on this point, although we disagree on everything else. Teachers who work in state schools generally seem to feel the same way. I can’t comment as I have had no experience since I left many decades ago.

Or also happy for us to go back to the original question, which was derailed by @MiserableMrsMopp attack on private schools 6 posts in: "expensive private schools are allowed to give their students a much easier ride"

From an OP like that? That's naive 😁

Interesting to see that @MiserableMrsMopp knows better than the DfE; this is for the purposes of funding/meeting the legal requirement to have or be studying GCSE Maths and English -

We treat some qualifications in maths, English language and English literature as equivalent to GCSE grade 9 to 4. This means that students who have studied in England or elsewhere who hold the following qualifications do not have to study maths and/or English to meet the condition of funding:

• international GCSEs, regulated or unregulated, or equivalent level 1/level 2 certificates grade 9 to 4

you speak very bitterly about it as a system that perpetuates inequality.

Not bitter. Sad. Scared for my grandchild that has to go through it.

YOU are very much part of that system and you could make a difference by returning to the state system but you have opted out for an easier life for yourself.

I would happily work in the state system if I could work less than 80 hours a week. I am a school governor and volunteer in school. But at my age, 80 hour weeks would kill me.

You clearly hate yourself for it.

Not at all. I did my time. I'm too old to work that way now. I was never the problem. Teachers are not the problem. The way the system is designed is the problem.

I could reverse what you have done (projecting your ideas onto me). I could propose that you attack me because you feel guilty about giving your children an unfair advantage. But TBH, you're a random user name on the internet and I have no knowledge of you in real life. As you have none of me, and therefore my conjecture would be no more accurate than yours was.

Well I am state educated 😉

AKA, the system. Which perpetuates inequality. Which forces teachers out due to unmanageable unrealistic expectations.

Next, you'll be saying OFSTED is impartial.

800 papers isn't a lot?

What examiner training tells you that IGCSE 7 = GCSE 9? Markers also only mark papers, they don't grade them, so what data are you talking about?

I am too, that's not an excuse! 😂

Been a teacher in a deprived area of the London. They took away coursework where students could show there skills

Are you sure the problem was Gove?

She doesn't hate herself. She hates privately educated children.

I'd like to see the Venn diagram that includes:
all 9s at GCSE
child of a MNer
6 foot
strapping
rugby player

Would love to see the school breakdown. Likely a large portion will be from the top 10 schools in the UK like Henrietta Barnet, St Olves, St Pauls etc.

I have teach

What does this mean grammar wise please? English is my 3rd language so I'm confused

MNetter has two degrees…

Typo, sorry! I teach...

That speaks volumes about her then. Who hates children for the choices their parents make or that their feel they have to make?

Or perhaps she hates their parents - me, who came from a war torn country unable to understand, speak or write English at age 7 or my DH who grew up hand to mouth in the UK?

Nope. Hate the system. But by all means continue with your imaginary scenarios. 80% of the children I work with now are privately educated.

Try harder. Grade 3. Incorrect interpretation of evidence provided.

DS1 got 11 x A*/9 s at GCSE, but was one of about ten academic scholars. His school averages about 75-80% 9s, depending on the annual cohort, and whether they've taken in some very sporty (but less academic) kids for the sake of the sports results! 😂

DS2, dyslexic, not very academic, only took 9 and got AA8876BCC. We told him that if asked, if he could truthfully say he got mostly A/A s and a couple of Bs !

Neither have ever been asked for their grades except on UCAS. It is largely irrelevant once you have A levels.

MiserableMrsMopp · Today 09:10
Of course not. Perpetuating the system of privilege. And when Oxbridge et al are forced to take contextual information on students into account, there is uproar from the privileged saying it's unfair.

Sure it's Grade 3?

So 80% of your income is coming from privately educating families, am I correct that it's tutoring? remaining 20% is from state tutoring? yet you're so conscious about privilege?