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Everything you need to know about registering child for school? For Dummies ( me).

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MistressMary · 11/01/2005 12:21

Hello I need to know the whole process of finding, registering and everything else related to the signing your offspring for school.

Many thanks.

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ladymuck · 11/01/2005 12:24

Assume you're in the UK? And private or state or both?

nailpolish · 11/01/2005 12:29

are you in scotland?

Chandra · 11/01/2005 12:31

I'm going to pay attention to this... Being a foreigner I just find the process very complex (in terms of understanding what's people talking about..)

LIZS · 11/01/2005 12:33

For State Schools, contact your local education authority (LEA) or visit the County Council or Borough website. Website here may help you too.

For private schools ring them direct for prospectus etc or visit the ISCIS website here as a starting point for those in your area.

hth

JulieF · 11/01/2005 12:59

As below plus:

For voluntary aided schools (church) ring them and ask for a copy of their admissions booklet. Depending on where you live some have a separate applications precedure than other state schools.

For state schools your LEA will set a date by which you have to apply for a place, this date will be sometime during the academic year before they are due to start.

Try and visit the schools sometime before the deadline for applications.

MistressMary · 11/01/2005 13:34

England and what ever it takes to get a decent education I spose, ladymuck.
Thanks.

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ladymuck · 11/01/2005 16:44

The Ladymuck guide to looking for a school:-

First understand your options - find out which schools are within a suitable distance, both state and private. www.upmystreet.com will give you info on state schools (and rank them in distance from your postcode. Your phone book, or your council may be able to give you a list of private ones too.

You should find out what the entry requirements are for each school. For state schools it is usual to apply in the year before you start reception (either by 31 December or some date in January). But bear in mind that many
primaries now have a nursery attached, and you would need to apply for that a year earlier. Voluntary controlled schools may have their own proceedures (and criteria such a church attendance), and in our area have different application deadlines.
I could only work it out by going through the council literature slowly and writing down all the key dates. You could ask the council for a brochure for this current round of applications (or many councils have the information available online). This will inform you as to whether your local schools are usually oversubscribed or not. If you can't get this info, then it is worth giving the school a ring and talking to the secretaries - I have found them to be very helpful in this process, happy to tell me how many applications they usually get, and whether I would be in their catchment. In our area you can apply individually to the voluntary controlled schools, and then for the LEA controlled ones, you choose up to 3 in order of preference. All first choices are considered first, second next etc. So if your first school is oversubscribed, you will be only considered for your second choice school after all the pupils who put that school first (so you don't have a chance if the second school is oversubscribed). Thus you are recommended to put a school down as your first choice only if you have a reasonable chance of getting in there. Using our own example, most of our local schools are oversubscribed, so I need to choose my first choice carefully - I effectveily don't have a 2nd and 3 rd choice. However I can, and have, applied to 2 voluntarily controlled schools, and therefore may end up with up to 3 state schools offers. Here's the unfair bit - there is nothing to stop me holding on to all 3 offers until the start of September, effectively blocking places at 1 or 2 schools.

Private schools may work on a "first come, first served" basis, or there may be some form of assessment. You will usually have to pay a fee to register (in our case this was between £20 and £50). At some point in the year before entry you will have you place confirmed, at which point a more hefty deposit will be required.

Next you need to think about your priorities: how easy will it be to walk to the school, can you park if it is further,
are there before and after school clubs. Are there aspects of school life which are important to you (eg sports,
residential trips, music). DO you want your child to get into a particular secondary school, and if so which primaries
send their puplis there (or which primaries have their pupils selected). What is the discipline/homework/bullying policy?

Have a look at the info available about the school (Ofsted reports and SATs results are available on line), but don't necessarily rely on these. They are best used to inform a decision rather than to be the sole basis on which you decide. Do talk to other parents about the schools. You can tell a lot about a school from the enthusiasm of the parents - those who are happy with the school are also happyto talk about it. Those less happy either moan or change the subject!

Next you must arrange to visit all the schools you are considering. You can only learn so much from paper and prospectuses.
Take a look round and try and work out whether your child would be happy there. Are there aspects to the school which would attract them (eg in the playground). Is there a diversity of pupils, as well as having pupils similar to your child (one of my friends found that her dd would be the first black child in her local school for 8 years!, our local church school's current reception has 29 children in 2 parent familes, and only 1 not).

In general the private school process seems to be in advance of the state one. If you have chosen a private selective school, then see if you can find out the basis of assessment (either to reassure yourself, or to help you prepare for it!).

MistressMary · 11/01/2005 18:01

Thankyou ever so much there, brill info.

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ladymuck · 11/01/2005 18:17

BTW this is just for Reception class - secondary level is a whole different ball game!

I've looked round 5 schools for ds1 - they've actually all been significantly different from one another, but to be honest I think that ds1 would be happy at any of them.

If you live near an LEA boundary you may also want to look at schools in the other LEA too.

motherinferior · 11/01/2005 18:21

Dates do vary - in my LEA it's the end of March and at least one school gets v huffy if you try and visit any earlier.

Florence22 · 22/09/2017 18:49

Why do we have to justify why we want a certain secondary school for our children? (Moving to yr 7). The system is unfair. If you already have a child in a secondary school then you just click has siblings and don't have to fill in the box below, but if you don't have a child in the school they want to know why you want them to go to that school. It's an unfair system for people like us who don't have older children. (England system). If your putting the school down it's because your happy with what you know as a parent.

viques · 22/09/2017 19:07

Please understand that the word "choice" in relation to school places is not the same as the word "choice" when you are in a cake shop.

In a normal cake shop you can choose the cake you want and the assistant will put it in a box and hand it to you. Now imagine a very special cake shop with its own rules, where the word "choice" has a new meaning. In this cake shop you indicate three cakes you think you would like to eat having researched the cakes online and decided that they are cakes you would be happy with . But this is not a normal cake shop, this cake shop runs on different rules.You might be fortunate and get one of the cakes you have indicated, perhaps your favourite, perhaps not. Or the assistant might put a cake in your box that you have not indicated and that you don't like . If you want to you can refuse the unwanted cake and walk out without any cake at all. Or you can take the unwanted cake and hope that at some point before the shop closes you will be able to exchange it for a cake you prefer.

But do not be under any illusion that you have a "choice". Even if you only indicate one cake, or make three identical indications, the assistant will apply their own set of rules which will determine the cake you take home.

PatriciaHolm · 22/09/2017 19:26

Florence - that sounds very odd. Secondary state allocations are nothing to do with why you want a particular school. Why do you have that impression?

State allocations criteria vary, but none of them will include any criteria that involve you writing a plea for why you want that school.

Florence22 · 22/09/2017 19:47

PatriciaHolm. It is really frustrating, that was exactly what I thought. To begin with you have to apply for secondary school online now, which is not a problem. Most of the mums I know have children already in secondary school so have an advantage. When I ask other parents it almost feels like they don't want you to know what to write, as they want their children to go there and spaces are limited. I just wish it was straight forward for oldies like me lol.

PatriciaHolm · 22/09/2017 21:06

I don't think you have quite understood how admissions work. the point is, for state schools, there is nothing to write!

Applicants are admitted using published criteria. Nothing you can write will make any difference (unless of course it is the proof you are in a specific admissions criteria). It doesn't matter how much you write about how you like the school, etc, that is not taken into account. Why do you think it is?

Bintang · 22/09/2017 21:25

You don't write anything! Put your schools in order of preference, that's it. It's not a choice, it's a preference.

2014newme · 23/09/2017 10:34

@Florence22 there is nothing to write. Yes siblings normally get priority. That makes sense to you surely?

2014newme · 23/09/2017 10:35

@Florence22 the reason they aren't telling you what they write is that they aren't writing anything

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