How's the Private School VAT increase impacting you?

[mumsthewordi]

To private fee paying ...are kids/s still in private ? Are you comfortably still able to afford and happy paying it ?

To state, how do you feel? Have you been impacted by more kids in class or would you expect that to play out this year? Or perhaps you weren't supportive ?
Do you think state schools will improve ?

Full disclosure
A struggling fee paying parent of one kid only other is at state and my oh is an amazing secondary school teacher - we are a divided household indeed at time, but we've made choices best for us.

Am I? Yeah, sounds fine to me.

Would any state school parents pick private if they could afford it?

I wouldn't, no.

What if it was the best school for your child? Would you let your own beliefs jeopardise the education of your child?

For those morally opposed, so you are also opposed to grammar schools, anyone buying in catchment of an outstanding comprehensive, all church schools and do you live by your principles? Did you purposefully find a school with just average results for your DCs? Did you then follow this through further and persuade your DCs not to attend any type of elite university either? (Essentially most of the Russell Group?) what other types of ethical beliefs do you follow? Are you green living and vegan do you count your carbon footprint very carefully? Etc etc
Or is it just private schools you are opposed to? And finance jobs?

…..and I’d like to take the option away from as many parents as possible.

Depends what you mean by best. If my child could not access mainstream education due to SEN I would consider private specialist school, otherwise I can't imagine what would make private the best. It certainly doesn't give an accurate picture of society.

Because quite frankly, if you are so morally opposed, it still does not make sense with regards to children with SEND in the private sector. I do not know a single person in real life who is really ethical who would want any DCs with SEND caught up in this. It is contradictory.

I mean the best fit for your child in terms of their personality, interests etc

And you also want to take that option/choice away from other parents too

No one is taking that option away.

It would be a last resort, I agree.

Labour is! Making indy schools more expensive and therefore removing it as an option for many middle earners. Thereby also making the schools MORE elitist

I‘m afraid you might not be fully up to date on Labours policies @MrsSchrute . It makes for quite shocking reading, the U.K. is the now the first member of the G7 and ECHR signatory to implement an education tax! No, I’m not making it up.

The option is still there, but if you can't afford it then you can't use it. Same as now.

Ah, sound logic. You’ll go far.

Remember Starmer was asked the question - if your child needed urgent treatment at hospital but NHS had long waiting times, would you go private?
[I paraphrase ]

long pause

‘No’

Yeah right.

So the bar for being able to afford it gets significantly higher, prices the MC out and you are left with indy schools just being the bastion of wealthy overseas + wealthy UK cohorts. Yes that really narrows the gap doesn't it!
If you want to narrow the gap then make indy schools MORE affordable and do what some countries do ie give financial incentives for using them = more people use them and they become more diverse. Labour’s way just widens the inequality.

I’m afraid logic doesn’t work on education taxers.

you are left with indy schools just being the bastion of wealthy overseas + wealthy UK cohorts

They already are. Going from 6% to 5% of children being privately educated will make virtually no difference to the immense inequality that private schools perpetuate.

Yes you made a separate point from what I was talking about which was context. That's why I said that you were missing the point of my post. Yes very obviously my children have benefited from the state system going to a top grammar, DH went to a top public school and I went to a comprehensive. Quite the mash-mash aren't we? I find that all quite useful to get a perspective on context.

The classic performatory inequality argument, used here to justify basic damaging spite aimed at children.

Maybe start a thread about your family and see if you get some interest?

What is that supposed to mean. I was answering a poster's comment that I was patronising you in light of the fact that you went to a comprehensive. Keep up!

It’s supposed to mean you’re on the wrong thread. There’s other more suitable avenues to tell random internet people about your kids.

Ah so your prejudice is against 1% ie aspiring WC/MC NOT the wealthy elites? Your prejudice is against normal working parents then who dare to look outside of the 1 size fits all mainstream education system. It doesn't matter if indy schools are only used by the really wealthy, just as long as normal people can't use them.

Gotcha, thanks for clarifying.