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Missed modules

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IndianaJones2021 · 09/12/2024 18:13

Wondering if anyone else has experienced what my son has.
He submitted his dissertation in September and the results came back in November, Cognitive Neuroscience.

There was a delay with his final grade, which he put down to being so close to 70 (68) they were remarking.
He received an email Friday, stating he wouldn't be graduating because the university forgot to upload three modules to his student record, which means had insufficient credits, and needs to complete in the new year, off his own back due the university not teaching these modules.
Hes devastated he was hoping to seek employment as he has 3 toddlers to support.
Does he have a case for compensation should these modules be wavered if that's even possible.

looking for advice 🥲 if anyone can help

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awaq · 09/12/2024 18:38

This doesn't make sense. If the uni made an error they must fix it, not ask him to repeat modules. Are you sure he completed the work?

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IndianaJones2021 · 09/12/2024 18:50

Hi,
thanks for the response, no he hasn't done the three modules, as the were completely omitted from his record.
I think it's wrong though it's taken them passed graduation to realise their mistake.
He should be celebrating, instead he's stressed out wondering how he'll cope financially, plus how he'll be able to motivate himself to finish the modules.

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lilao · 09/12/2024 19:00

He can still get a job without graduating, most people who work don't have degrees and he's not going to walk into a job just because of a piece of paper

awaq · 09/12/2024 19:06

I still think responsibility for this lies with him. What was he doing if not attending those modules? Surely he noticed he was doing far fewer modules than other people on his course

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IndianaJones2021 · 09/12/2024 19:07

I get that, but I feel it's wrong this has happened, and he should either be compensated or grant him the masters based on the work he's done.

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lilao · 09/12/2024 19:14

I think he needs to get a full investigation from the university over what's happened. When I was at uni I only did 4 modules/ classes a year and if it's a masters, 3 modules sounds like a considerable amount of the course

awaq · 09/12/2024 19:14

No he does not deserve a masters if he hasn't not completed the required work.

And the uni doesn't need to compensate him for failing to complete the required modules.

TheFallenMadonna · 09/12/2024 19:18

Do you mean that he wasn't enrolled onto the right number of modules last year? What do you mean when you say the university doesn't teach those modules?

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IndianaJones2021 · 09/12/2024 19:20

awaq · 09/12/2024 19:14

No he does not deserve a masters if he hasn't not completed the required work.

And the uni doesn't need to compensate him for failing to complete the required modules.

Can you imagine waiting to graduate, only to be told you are 3 modules short. That these modules are not actually taught at the university and that he has to download and teach himself.
They have told him that what has happened is through no fault of his own

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maybeinanotherlifetime · 09/12/2024 19:25

This seems very odd - sorry if I have misunderstood but was he simply not aware/made aware that these modules were required to be undertaken? Was there any mention of them in any of the course literature? Has the university said how this situation came about?
At my university we run reports to ensure students are registered to the correct number of modules for their courses as sometimes students may change to a different optional module so we run these reports to check everything is in order with their registration.

McSpoot · 09/12/2024 19:27

But didn't he ever look over the list of modules that he needs? Who sets the list of needed modules? How can the university offer the degree, but not all the pieces needed to get it?

I also don't understand this bit "the university forgot to upload three modules to his student record". At first, I assumed that he had done the work but that the university didn't upload the results onto his record, but now you say that he never did them (and, presumably, didn't even know that he had to do them?).

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IndianaJones2021 · 09/12/2024 19:39

McSpoot · 09/12/2024 19:27

But didn't he ever look over the list of modules that he needs? Who sets the list of needed modules? How can the university offer the degree, but not all the pieces needed to get it?

I also don't understand this bit "the university forgot to upload three modules to his student record". At first, I assumed that he had done the work but that the university didn't upload the results onto his record, but now you say that he never did them (and, presumably, didn't even know that he had to do them?).

This was the email, I feel someone is at blame

A masters degree is made up of 180 units 120 taught modules credits plus 60 for dissertation.
When a student enrolls on a part time version of the course they ought to have 60 credits in year 1 and the remainder in year 2. It has transpired that not all the remaining taught modules were added to your record for the second year. You have only 150 credits and therefore not enough to award the degree. None of the remaining modules are running at *** university but the materials are available to you.

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No33 · 09/12/2024 19:41

So he's done one module and his diss in his second year and didn't think that odd?

OtterOnAPlane · 09/12/2024 19:43

Presumably he was told at some point that he needed to complete the online modules? It is just him that didn't or are others?

skilpadde · 09/12/2024 19:45

The responsibility will lie with him, not the university. He will have been issued with, or notified of, the university's postgraduate handbook, which will outline the credits he needs to gain an MSc, how the scoring works for a distinction etc.

He didn't notice he was 30 credits short?

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IndianaJones2021 · 09/12/2024 19:47

OtterOnAPlane · 09/12/2024 19:43

Presumably he was told at some point that he needed to complete the online modules? It is just him that didn't or are others?

The remaining modules are still not on his record,
The info will be put on in the new year, but should of been put on a year last September

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colesr · 09/12/2024 19:49

The remaining modules are still not on his record,

If he hasn't down them, why would they be?

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IndianaJones2021 · 09/12/2024 19:49

skilpadde · 09/12/2024 19:45

The responsibility will lie with him, not the university. He will have been issued with, or notified of, the university's postgraduate handbook, which will outline the credits he needs to gain an MSc, how the scoring works for a distinction etc.

He didn't notice he was 30 credits short?

I will check this with him. He has done very well with all his exams I'm surprised if he knew beforehand because he is very upset at the minute

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OtterOnAPlane · 09/12/2024 19:49
  • The remaining modules are still not on his record, The info will be put on in the new year, but should of been put on a year last September*

Super, but that doesn't match the question. Was he told previously that he needed to do online modules, or was this a total surprise to him?

Linked to this, did other students manage to do the online modules, and if so, how did they know about it?

MissRoseDurward · 09/12/2024 19:56

Wasn't he aware that he needed to complete X number of modules, but had only done Y? Didn't he think to raise that with his tutor or someone at the university?

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IndianaJones2021 · 09/12/2024 19:57

OtterOnAPlane · 09/12/2024 19:49

  • The remaining modules are still not on his record, The info will be put on in the new year, but should of been put on a year last September*

Super, but that doesn't match the question. Was he told previously that he needed to do online modules, or was this a total surprise to him?

Linked to this, did other students manage to do the online modules, and if so, how did they know about it?

No he wasn't told about the remaining three assignments. He had deadlines for each piece of work which needed to be submitted, all of which was detailed on his student account. Dates etc As these were omitted and have yet to go there is no info, he has only just found out what the assignments are called etc.

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Simonjt · 09/12/2024 20:01

So in year two he failed to register for enough modules, so the modules he didn’t pick aren’t on his online record. Did he not wonder what he needed to do to gain enough credits to graduate? Its perfectly normal to have online only modules, especially research and skills pieces.

WaitingRoomBoredom · 09/12/2024 20:03

How were these modules originally offered? Were they independent study for everyone? Or were they taught and have since been withdrawn since he should have taken them? If the latter the university has to provide support and they shouldn't be charging him fees if they have admitted fault. It is very unusual that he didn't realise he was missing this amount of credit though

HeddaGarbled · 09/12/2024 20:04

This doesn’t make sense. How can they have ‘forgotten’ to put them on his record if they don’t teach them anyway? You or he need to be asking the uni a lot more questions.

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IndianaJones2021 · 09/12/2024 20:09

Thanks for all the responses. I will put the questions to him. I'm trying to get a better understanding of the whole process.

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