Can someone please come and explain Yr2 SAT scores to me?

[StripeyKnickersSpottySocks]

We have finally got the report back from school that we needed for last week's meeting with the Ed Psych. They've inclused SAT scores, which I'm guessing are from a mock She was 7 last month.

English - 2c (low/middle in group)
Speaking - 1a
listening - 2c
Reading 2b (middle of group, reading age - 8y3months)
Writing - 1a/2c (low/middle of group).
Handwriting 1a/2c (low in group)
Maths - 2c (middle of group)

How much of a difference is tehre between 1a and 2c? 2c is obviously higher. How worried should I be?

Seeing as the ed psych said she's very intelligent she obviously isn't achieving the level she should be.

Thanks

Think 2b at the end of the year is what is "expected" so a 2c in mocks wouldn't be an issue at this stage and a 2b good.

When I got DD's SAT results I was told '2' is what a yr2 child should be achieving to be on par, and 'C' being average, maybe a teacher or someone in the know could explain it properly, I do think that you should be a little concerned but your daughter did ok with the 2C & B's, not a major concern as the hand writing will come in time

2 is the 'expected' level for end of Year 2 (well, May to June, really, as that's when they do/did the tests). 2b is a solid, secure level 2 with all aspects of 2 achieved; 2c is just a 2 with maybe a few wobbly bits; and 2a is above what is expected with some aspects of level 3 mastered.

So only the 1a would be particularly worrying, though, if, as you say, your DD tests as very intelligent the scores are generally lower than you'd expect.

I'm not a teacher though, just a veteran of 2 Year 2s, but DS2's teacher went through the grades with us a couple of weeks ago as a preamble to our parents' evening chat.

The National Curriculum sets standards of achievement in each subject for pupils aged 5-14. This is tested when they reach the end of each Key Stage. These tests give an indication of how pupils and schools are doing compared with national standards in these subjects.

For most subjects, these standards range from Levels 1 -8. Pupils progress up the levels as they get older and learn more.

? most 7 year olds are expected to achieve Level 2

? most 11 year olds are expected to achieve Level 4

? most 14 year olds are expected to achieve Levels 5 or 6

The government have moved the "goal posts" and a 2c is now considered to be a secure level 1...?

wot singersgirl said.

1a is the only one that's at all worrying.

It is likely these are teacher assessments rather than a mock- the KS1 assessments are not tests like KS2 or KS3.

The results are slightly below average, but not worryingly so.
She's not summer-born, which could have contributed.
If she is intelligent, then there may be another barrier to her achieving. Has anyone suggested dyslexia? Perhaps she is bored with the work? Is her classroom behaviour generally good or disruptive?

She may just be a slower developer- there is plenty of time yet for her to take off. Many, many children still reach level 4s at KS2 having had 2c or 1a at KS1.

Bloody ~SATs
Sorry, but they just worry parents. Wish they'd abolish the damn things.

DO NOT WORRY
There is nothing wrong with your daughter. She is a secure level2 and even if she wasn't, you would have known about it long before now if she had big problems.

Schools want to get the majority of children to level2 for the sake of statistics and achieving set targets. Does nothing for the individual child though.

She's happy? She's learning? She is fine.

Speaking as a teacher of infants.

by the way, testing like this is no way indicative or representative of a child's actual ability. Why is she seeing an Ed Psych?

There have been some very reassuring posts on here. My son's school seem quite "hot" on SATS. I value the teachers opinion of my DS more than any test results. Its very hard though as some parents do like to tell everyone how well their child did.

egypt - when you say "testing like this is no way indicative or representative of a child's actual ability" do you think that applys when they have Y6 SATS? because the results of those are what the secondary schools round here go on when grouping the children in Y7? Not that i've got to worry about it for a few years.

Hate SATS

She got seen by an ed psych as the teacher told me at parents' evening that she was worried about dd - but not enough to do anything about it.

Someone suggested she may be dyslexic (2 different people actually, inc a teacher in the family). She has other issues at home as well to do with been unable to get herself dressed, not knowling left from right, being very forgetful and disorganised.

Anyway she is dyslexic.

It's a shame that high schools take the tests into consideration but of course, what else do they have to go on. However, I think they are a more reliable when it comes to year6 as the children are much more adapt to test taking. In year2 they are so sooo young. Anything slight in their understanding, mood, interpretation can affect test result.

It's such a shame children have to work towards a level at the end of the day.

I'm a teacher and even though I'm not qualified to diagnose dyslexia, I think the fact that the only worrying results are in writing and handwriting do suggest some form of specific learning difficulty such as dyslexia. This would tally with her being intelligent but not achieving as high in these areas.

Everything else seems fine for her age. I've known many Y6s get level 4 at KS2 SATs after getting 2B or 2C at KS1.

Treat the meeting with the EP as a chance to ensure her needs are met in order that she reaches her potential and try not to worry.