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Starmummy · 16/04/2008 10:37

Can anyone help please? Ds has dropped one level in almost all subjects in his last report. He says its because he didnt know there would be a test (probably wasnt listening) although we werent informed either.
Anyway my questions is how to help him revise and keep on top of his learning. In general he isnt very organised and is scruffy with his work. I know he has self esteem issues and I suspect this might be at the back of his scruffyness (shoves papers all screwed up into his bag, doesnt proof read etc). I am adressing those seperatley and it is making a difference.

We have bought a folders, coloured pencils, highlighters, flash cards etc. all I need now is how to put it all into practice.

TIA

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scaryteacher · 16/04/2008 11:05

How old is he?

Starmummy · 16/04/2008 12:44

Sorry, I am not well and internet playing up, I meant to say yr7, (12.6yrs.) in the title and when I realised I had missed it the internet stopped working. Have given high specific praise as he got student of the day for his history homework (legends & myths, he chose St George). I was a bit grrrr as it had a glaring sp mistake - ledgend - in the title but didnt tell him that as didnt want to take the edge off his winning ;-)

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scaryteacher · 16/04/2008 13:16

OK, I have same problem - it's a boy thing really and will improve. My ds was born Oct 95, same as yours I would think!

There are ways to deal with this, and to avoid in September what is known as Year 8 dip.

I check ds's contact book/homework diary/planner every evening when he gets in to see if there is any homework. If there is, he does it after having a drink and something to eat. My take is do it now, or Sunday, and he chooses to have the weekend free if possible. I make sure that there is clear space on the table for him to work, and have an unending supply of pens, pencils, rulers etc in my desk.

If a test is written down, then I make him revise.

We pack his bag in theory before he goes to bed, so it's less hassle in the morning. I also write in his book what homework is due to be set each day, and tell him to wrote none set when he's not given any. When I was teaching secondary, I got the my students to write down their h/w, then I walked around the class to check it had been written down.

Where has the level dropped from? If from primary school, then I wouldn't stress too much, as a level 5 at primary equates to a 3/4 at secondary. Parents always find this strange, as it isn't a straight continuum.

It's difficult to strike a balance between helping and hindering. I look at ds's homework sometimes and proof it for him, as that is quite a skill to acquire. If his h/w is one of the subjects I taught then I'll offer advice, but I get yelled at if I suggest another way of doing things. Sometimes they need to fail in order to learn, if you see what I mean.

The problem with year 7 is that if it's a state school, then kids come in with having done different things, and much of year 7 for some is boring as they have done all the work before. The problem is kicking them out of this inertia in year 8, otherwise they dip, especially boys, and go backwards.

It's fine to get them to revise for tests, but not otherwise necessary unless they have end of year exams. The subject matter changes in year 8, and although things may be referred back to, they won't get retaught until GCSE; in history for example, if they're doing 20th Century GCSE, they'll not look at the Tudors again.

The trick is to keep them enthused about school rather than put them off. I taught some boys in year 8 who were disorganised, scruffy work etc; I bought one of them a pencil case filled with biros, pencils, ruler etc each year, and checked he had it each time I saw him; but they had turned it around by year 10, and passed their GCSEs.

You can also go to the Standards Site: Schemes of Work, and that will tell you roughly what he should be studying this year for the National Curriculum.

Hope that helps. Just stay calm though and you'll get there. I got told yesterday that he waned help, but in a more constructive way than I was offering it, so that was something. I think he means 'how about this way?' as opposed to, 'No, that's wrong' (even when it is!)

Starmummy · 16/04/2008 13:36

OOOOOh scaryteacher you sound lovely!! Not at all scary.
DS was a Sept baby so just a litle older but the shortest, poor thing, having said that we have some hulking giants in his class, one boy has size 13 feet and is already 6ft!! In yr 7!!!
Anyway to work,he does have end of year tests in every subject inclu drama, but not PE? School have advised us they will be tested w/c 25th May. They have also told us to get all these pens folders and stuff, and to get enough sleep but nothing about how to actually revise. I presume we have to revise the work for the whole year having not been told otherwise.

Now I am happy generally with most lessons, music art sciences and things that he enjoys, its just making sure the basics are covered and that he can do extended writing effectively. He has never had to do an essay for homework, spellings go uncorrected, which I understand is because it detracts from the content presumably? Its things like science homework, because his handwriting and spelling leave a lot to be desired he cant get the work written down quickly and accurately enough. So science today is a poster about two types of plastic. He has no idea what types of plastic or what the poster is supposed to represent (I understand the point of posters now having posted about that previously - no pun intended!)

We have tried to make things fun, yesterdays St George homework included a watermark of him with his face painted with a St Georges Cross. I have explained as long as he answers the questions asked specifically he will be ok. So for Medival we have created a longtimeline poster, 1066 includes the zero drawn as an eyeball with an arrow in,etc stuff like that as he is a visual learner (apparently).

Really its just the basics I want to make sure are in place. IYSWIM. And I am dreading the year 8 dip so I want to get ahead of it. He seems happy enough with school and some things enthuse him like science its just the effort or lack of that worries me.

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scaryteacher · 16/04/2008 13:57

I know I'm lovely, but an awful lot of my students called me the bitch queen from hell when I was on their case!

I have to say that I set essays in year 7, and spent a lesson explaining how to structure them; and I always corrected spellings on principle; there is a SPaG (spelling, punctuation and grammar) element to GCSE marking, and I wanted them in good habits early, then I didn't have to teach it at year 10.

Revision then can be you asking him a set of questions on a variety of subjects, and maybe give a small treat for getting them right? If he doesn't know, go and look it up with him. For history, I wasn't so much interested in dates, but whether they'd grasped concepts like bias; primary and secondary sources; the feudal system; why William won the battle of Hastings etc. If he's a visual learner, and that will only be part of his learning style, get him to draw mind maps of a subject, using words, colours and symbols to help as you're doing with the time line. You could also give him a subject (the feudal system) to revise, and ask him to explain it to you when he's finished; little and often works, not huge chunks of revision.

Divide the subjects between the folders, green for Geography etc, and do a little a night. Ask your ds which bits confuse him and revise those. The teachers should hopefully be doing some revision in the lessons with them. Highlighter pens are great for highlighting key words; mnemonics work, ROYGBIV for the colours of the rainbow etc.

If you have concerns about his organisation and learning, go and see the form tutor. I asked in staff meetings for colleagues to check that certain of my tutor group had written h/w down; and when I was asked for other kids, I checked on the whole class so it wasn't obvious that one student was being targeted.

I am not convinced that my ds is doing as well as he should, but it is parents evening tonight, so we will see. I know he's coasting, and if he were in my tutor group now I'd be kicking his arse, but his tutor is more laid back than me, as are some of his teachers, and it's a private school. I am shocked by the difference in standards between this one abroad, and the standards at the comp at which I taught. I think the comp was displaying best practice whereas here, I want to light a bloody rocket under them at times!!

Starmummy · 16/04/2008 14:20

Good luck with parents evening, maybe you could ask the teachers to give him a rocket? Thats what I did, esp with the maths teacher,she started marking homework, ungraded as impossible to read! Worked for me, gave Ds a shock but he does slide back, but she seems to be right there so in general I am pleased.

We are abroad also, Ds was in private school in the UK. He wants to go back to UK but to boarding schoola s he knows we cant go back yet as a family. But thats another thread. I will show him what you have said and try to use that. Have just asked him if he has done hw he said yes, but not the poster, although he has emailed the teacher for clarification (which I asked him to do yesterday) and not the Spanish becasue it doesnt have to be done till next Wednesday! Grrrr.

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scaryteacher · 16/04/2008 14:25

Where are you? I'm in Belgium. DS was at prep in Devon, and came out here with us as he doesn't want to board. He has been warned if he doesn't buck his ideas up it is either the Flemish system, which would help his Dutch no end, or boarding school, as I'm sick of fees being paid, and him not working. He doesn't want to board though, or I'd have left him at Mount House.

The writing issue is important and we have that too, but as long as it is legible for GCSE, it doesn't matter too much. You should see some of the papers I mark, and now it's online, it's worse!

Starmummy · 16/04/2008 14:53

Ahhhh we are in Dubai - all fur coat and no knickers!

Teachers mainly stay for two year contracts, so edcuation lacks a little continuity or accountablility. IMHO

Previously we were in Leeds/Wakefield and his school didnt have boarding. I never thought the words boarding school would cross my lips, but reluctantly I can see why it might be a better option. He researched and has chosen Bootham in York. Not sure they will chose him! He can be back in Leeds by train in 20 mins, and also friends and family can vist. He thinks that they will be stricter so he will have to do better and work harder and additionally there will be more sport. Not much sport here. He does dualthalon and football.He used to do sailing but the sailing club doesnt have any coaches as the hotel next door is trying to close it down to get the land.

Lessons are all 55 mins, no double or triple lessons, so you cant get much sport in in 50 mins by the time they have all changed! Dubai has an horrebdous rate of childhood obsesity and diabetes, you can see why.

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scaryteacher · 16/04/2008 21:58

Parents evening OK. Extremely bright, but coasting; needs to listen more. I am unimpressed that they can't equate his progress to National Curriculum levels as they made them do SATS in year 6, then don't carry on with that data in Year 7, very odd. It was interesting to watch his maths teacher, who is the teacher in charge of assessment and tracking not be able to answer this question! His algebra teacher then tried to explain how the levels worked to me...not a good move really.

The only teachers who tell it like it is are the science teacher and the English teacher and they are bang on about his abilities and his faults.

I'm looking forward to the new principal starting in September, that should be interesting!

Loshad · 16/04/2008 22:28

starmummy - do Bootham do football, quaker school so no contact sports, not sure if they have football under that or not. He doesn't fancy St Peter's?

Starmummy · 17/04/2008 04:35

Hi Loshad
I think they do but no rugby for sure. DS knows this and is reluctanly happy to go with that. As for St Peters, they came to a boarding school exhibition here in Dubai but the head teacher didnt turn up? I left my details but he didnt contact me. Most strange. DS says is he doesnt want us we dont want them.!

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Starmummy · 17/04/2008 06:35

Scaryteacher

Glad parents evening didnt come as a shock, thats what they always say isnt it? That they shouldnt tell you anything you dont know? Still I might like to know what they intend to do with my/your child IYKWIM.
LOL at you watching the maths teacher srtruggle, bet you did your scary teacher face . Still doesnt help with your DS gettting motivated, such a pain isnt it?

We have just had a new principal (and he's not my pal -thats one of ways I remember for spelling)and in this instance I mean it too, prob not best to record here what I feel after the meeting with him!!!!!!

Loshad -do you know much about St Peters? DH came home last night taking Greek (ok not exactly but possible working there) so it becomes more important still to get the right school for DS. IMHO its not good to keep moving him. Havent had a chance to google schools in Athens yet. sigh...

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scaryteacher · 17/04/2008 07:38

There is an international school called the Campion school which has Council Of international Schools status in Athens
www.campion.edu.gr
and
[email protected] which is the British Embassy school called St Catherine's - looks as if it is a normal private school.

If you look here,
www.britishembassy.gov.uk/.../Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1107295190354
there is a bit on the embassy webpage that gives you links to schools. The TASIS kids come to Brussels to play in soccer tournaments.

Hope that helps.

ChocolateEclair · 17/04/2008 07:40

Just a short addition (from another teacher!). We have Year 7 exams coming up starting next Monday and have prepared a simple revision pack for the students to revise with. It contains help sheets and key facts to learn (Science) and reduces the need for them to try to learn their whole book. We don't like to put TOO much emphasis on exams at this age as just going into the exam hall can be the biggest challenge for some!

Is it worth asking his teachers if they intend to provide similar pack?

I would second plenty of sleep and making sure he has all his equipment etc

Hope you get things sorted out to your satisfaction soon

CE xx

PS. It sounds like your are really supportive and doing everything a child or school could ask (if only all parents were as supportive and helpful!)

Loshad · 17/04/2008 10:00

Starmummy - My dss don't go to St Peters, they go to a day only school in the next city. However we play them at sport, and the youngsters seem pleasant, friendly, good at appropriate behaviour on and off the sports field whether winning or losing. I know a couple of adults who went there who are well adjusted and not up their own bu**s.
It's a nice location, food is good
(certainly for the visiting parents and sports teams anyway), and plenty of space. The parents seem happy with the school, though i know a couple well enough to be sure they're not just putting a face on it.
Have you thought about Barnard Castle, i know it's a bit further north but it's a really "nice" school and i know lots of happy parents and kids there as well.

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