To have though of a fairer way to fund state education than VAT on private?

[wlakaaf]

State schools are in desperate need of funding.

Money needs raising.

Instead of sticking 20% onto private fees - when those people are already paying 100% of the costs for educating their child, how about this:

Parents of children currently in state schools ought to contribute to their education on a means tested basis. There would be no argument over means, it would be a simple reference to the council tax band of the house you live in. We have bands A-H. I would propose that people in band A-F pay nothing. People in band G pay a fixed charge per year and people in band H pay a higher fixed charge per year.

Keir Starmer has used money to buy a massively expensive house, worth in the region of £2m, in the very tight catchment of a lovely state primary. This is buying privilege, same as buying private education. So why does he get away without paying?

In Newcastle?

I actually think perhaps all homeowners should be taxed extra. They must be rich to buy a house when they could rent privately or better still council housing. That would ensure the government has more money to over council housing and eventually we'd all be hosted by the government. That could be a potential source of extra cash for the government

What like the rest of the world taxes private?
oh they don’t

education isn’t a luxury

Yes! It had a lot of press coverage locally.

@Tristar15 they are not losing their charitable status. That is a completely different thing. VAT has not been applied before because they are educational establishments and under EU law you didn't charge VAT on education. Obviously, we can change this.

Losing charitable status is a completely different thing and would be a much bigger headache and would probably cost thousands to undo charitable trusts etc. And in the meantime state schools don't get anything

Which is why the state provides it

Tax everyone else more
Tax me less

This is what everyone is saying.

That is literally what happens in many other countries. Gernany and Australia for example give parents who use private schools tax relief on their income. They pay lower taxes than those who use state schools. Australia positively encourage parents to do this as it benefits the state.

Traveling outside the UK is a luxury, I agree with tax at the border. People could holiday in the UKz, they made the choice to travel! Perhaps spending less than £2000 is fine but anything more means you're rich, and should be taxed for that privilege!

You mean... you don't mean... you surely don't mean that you can't tell the difference between the privately educated privileged and the state educated riff-raff?

All that money down the drain and nothing to show for it.😁

You have a bee in your bonnet about KS.
I'm sure he's paid far more in tax over his working life to more than cover his kids "free school"

Almost everyone plays the same game and the bar hasn’t been raised.

@wlakaaf "education isn’t a luxury"

Private education is.

It’s his policy I have an issue with, and the hypocrisy of it. He’s just an example of a rich person getting education for free, whilst thinking that those of us already paying 100% should pay 120%.

labour already abolished grammars in the 60s to decrease inequality. Look how that turned out. Then labour took away assisted places, reducing social mobility. Now they are trying to get VAT from private. Every time, they fuck it up and standards go further down the bog.

And those in the higher band houses who aren't massively flush because they inherited them?

And size of house Vs council tax doesn't equate to income . I'm lucky because I'm in a HA property so get low rent and low council tax but doesn't mean the person a few houses down in a large 5 bed has more disposable income than me.

Do you have a link regarding Australia? Non government schools receive Commonwealth funding but school fees are not tax deductible.

I don’t agree

Oh look. Thread 12,392.

Who cares? His kids are getting educated for free. And loads of rich people like him. Why can't they be asked for money?

Everyone is entitled to state education.

He's not doing anything wrong by using it.

It's very clear this is a thread about having a dog at KS without any thought to the actual plan

Meanwhile in France my kid at a deprived state primary was in a class of 12. You get what you vote for, people.

"They could have done with following the Starmes example."

What- of predicting which school would be a good one around 10 years before he had a school age child? I'm impressed. That sort of insight will stand him in good stead as Prime Minister!

@wlakaaf "I don’t agree"

You can disagree all you want. You're wrong!

You can think I’m wrong if you want. My kids are in private and I know what’s going on in there. Education below 16 is not a luxury. You are wrong.

What they stated is absolutely correct. The fact you prefer to claim otherwise doesn’t alter the facts.

I went to a comp that was a bit shit and got into a great uni and loads of my colleagues went to private school... bit of a waste, innit.