If you’re charged VAT will you remove your child from their private school? I’m v stressed!

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We won’t be able to pay the increase. Only hope is asking grandparents for the shortfall which we don’t want to do. Anyone else in a similar boat? Do you think it will literally be a 20% increase on fees or will schools absorb some of it? Our school has said they will address the matter ‘if and when’ it applies.

They can’t seem to help themselves. Bitterness? Jealousy? Who knows. They’re pathetic. Just laugh at them.

You’re so bitter it’s hilarious. Especially for someone who ‘doesn’t care’ 😂

I don’t and wouldn’t send my children to private school- and agree with the proposed vat charges.
I don’t however agree with the tone of some of the posts on here- this policy will cause considerable upheaval for families and for children, and cause them to potentially become unsettled.
I would have been happier if there was a gradual increase to 20% vat- say in 5% increments- or it applying at certain levels such as Y7, Y9, Y12 and then follow the children through- it just seems really unfair for children who are settled in schools.
Also, something I may have missed but people who have to pull their children out of schools won’t immediately be taking up the places in outstanding local schools- many of which are already full but rather going to schools with spaces which may not be the ‘best’ schools or the ones closest to their home. Many people also choose private because of wraparound childcare- again, this is going to be difficult to access when children are moved schools as services are already stretched.
So although I agree with the policy in theory, I do think the implementation needs some thought so that children’s wellbeing is prioritised.

you're quite right

however, I wanted to live near my mum

Yhe fantastic stae school will already be full!

The timing is bang on for this policy. Most schools/parents will use whatever resources they can to delay the impact so it won't take full effect for probably 2-5 years. Meanwhile the cohort about the start year 7 is the birth rate peak, after which cohort size drops by 15% over the next 10 years. By which time the state sector has spare capacity for probably double the number of children privately educated, vs today.

You don't think it's relevant to hear from people 'outwith the bubble'?

Can you pay a bit in advance to avoid the potential vat increases?

@vodkaredbullgirl probably sell our fourth home in Monaco.

I don’t know. Probably re mortgage for the shortfall.

The ones demanding that every thread/conversation/person who’s life of ‘privilege’ they don’t like revolve around them?

No.

I think to be panicking now is futile. If a school is addressing it now they are scaremongering. We only sent one of our kids to private school and it was a struggle some years to find the money so I appreciate the concern but every one has money worries and considering what is going on in Israel and the brutality affecting families and children dying needlessly, you really should focus on the positives and not what could happen!

This is what’ll happen, is already happening. Increase in spite. It’s a very poor policy for actually improving things

This.

If lots of children are pulled out of private schools because their parents can't afford it anymore, then that's going to have a knock on effect on state schools and the education of our children.

The government (tories or Labour) aren't going to turn around and spend the VAT earnt on school fees on brand new state schools.

It's a lose/lose situation.

Not when OP is specifically asking for those who have kids at private school to share what they’re going to do in a specific scenario.

If it’s a more general discussion, then yes.

So why not make all state schools fantastic so that all children get a good start in life?

Except the lives of state school children.

Nobody is actually doing that though.

The only reason we’re even having this exchange is because of posters that have done exactly that.

“Oh no! A thread that isn’t about ME/my pet concern!”

From this policy?

I doubt it. Other ways would be better.

You’re getting quite a lot of mileage out of your brother’s short-lived teaching career @aiak I hope he has at least one anecdote from your career that he keeps repeating on dadsnet…

Be like looking on a mirror won’t it babe?

In sum, by reference to the Convention and its jurisprudence, whilst the Labour motion most recently passed may be compatible with the Labour Party’s pledge on ‘social justice’, it is frankly incompatible with the right to education and plurality of choice in education as guaranteed by A2P1 and the right of peaceful enjoyment of possessions protected under A1P1. Put another way, it is plurality not ‘social justice’ in education that is the core guarantee conferred by A2P1 and it is plurality, not ‘social justice’ which ‘is essential for the preservation of the “democratic society” as conceived by the Convention’. None of this means that the removal of social injustice and inequalities are not laudable objectives for the Labour Party to pursue in the best interests of society as a whole. But in the educational sphere, the means by which those objectives are sought to be achieved must be compatible with the guarantee of freedom of choice in education in the Convention.

State schools who will be able to magic up 6500 teachers with their new bounty?

I sent my children to state school and could afford private so I do agree with you.

KS has said its happening asap so it seems likely to happen, and it's not only 20%, its 20% plus a possible 5-10% annual fee increase, even if some schools can freeze that for a year when VAT is applied annual increases will be back the following year and whilst Labour have said they don't think anyone will pull their child out of private school because of it independent studies have shown it will be 5-30%. Some of which will have additional needs and find it hard to change schools and get the support they need.

Maybe to make it fairer the 20% could be offset against the thousands and thousands of pounds private school parents have saved the Government over the years by not taking up a state school place.

You chose to sent your children to Private school and expect that people who live in £1m houses should pay a tax for sending to their local state school? A school they are already paying tax for? A school into which they are likely to invested time (volunteering) and raised funds for?

So you can choose how to spend your money, in this case on schools, without penalty? Another family who chose to put that money into their home should be penalised for it. This country is not just screwed by the politicians...

You tried to buy your children an advantage, you should not be pointing fingers at anyone.