If you’re charged VAT will you remove your child from their private school? I’m v stressed!

[Liikklu]

We won’t be able to pay the increase. Only hope is asking grandparents for the shortfall which we don’t want to do. Anyone else in a similar boat? Do you think it will literally be a 20% increase on fees or will schools absorb some of it? Our school has said they will address the matter ‘if and when’ it applies.

Besides, according to a lot of parents using these businesses WE should ALL be concerned as our schools will be flooded with little Henry and Henriettas taking up state schools places and kicking us plebs out of the good ones…

Many of the parents at my sons’ private school weren’t able to afford to send their children to a good state school.

I don’t know why private school parents and their children are being vilified on these threads when there are people out there who are that wealthy, they don’t need to send their children to private school. Their local state school is far more elite.

And? Does every conversation have to revolve around poverty?

Mumsnet is a huge forum that has posters from all socioeconomic levels, and said posters are free to post about their own lives regardless of their level of ‘privilege’.

It is in some areas. Again - inequality.

Again, tell me YOU don't have a clue......

This is so lame! Try harder!

The PP is the one to introduce poverty to the topic by saying that they didn't believe that anyone couldn't afford to buy tampons.

No, that would have been the poster bleating on about something completely irrelevant to what OP was asking.

I raised this with our DD’s headmaster during our review after she started pre-prep, and he said “it’s not something we’re concerned about”. Maybe it’s the part of the country we’re in, may escape us if it’s considered a devolved issue.

We’re fortunate that fees for prep are 5K PA and there are no private secondaries, most kids move into the associated grammar and then your (usually voluntary) fees drop to a hundred or so per year. A 20% uplift wouldn’t be great for us but it would still remain affordable.

In the rest of the country this is just going to push up house prices near the better state schools. It’ll put access to those schools out of the reach of even more kids whose parents can’t afford to pay the associated uplift in housing costs. I don’t understand the glee or enthusiasm for this policy- not only are we going to see the above, but with projected closures there will be hundreds of teachers, TAs, admin staff, support staff, grounds staff etc all made redundant during a COL crisis, with those at the lower skilled end of the scale probably not having many other employment options open to them.

As you say, you definitely have to budget and plan for the increases, but it's the unexpected baseline change that will catch people out. So it's 4 years increase in one go, then the year after it's a 4% increase on 120% etc. We didn't have that in our worse case scenario (which was an 8% per year increase)

It wasn’t rude. It was pointing out that you have added absolutely nothing of value to the thread that is about something that you clearly don’t want to constructively contribute to. So jog on.

Meanwhile your comment was so inspired? Sure.

@aiak 'Oh I do have a clue. My db taught in a school like this. Got attacked. Got told to fuck off by parents when he tried to help the kids. Guess what, he moved to teach in a private school'

You absolutely do not have experience of the vast child poverty in this country because your brother had one bad experience in one state school. What's worse is that you demonstrate zero empathy.

Oh God, of course people who have money don't know what poverty is like, especially when you can tap your parents for money when it's in short supply.

But that doesn't preclude you from complaining about a policy change which could upend your kids education in a heartbeat.

And not are all state schools this awful hell hole, which seems to have become the counter argument.

Honestly, I fucking hate this place on the run up to an election. The little nuance that remains on this site is jettisoned in favour of a truck load of bullshit.

I agree with your last paragraph especially. It taps into a certain mindset but the outcome isn’t good

There was another thread on this and a poster suggested that you pay least this upcoming year in advance. So I'm taking that advice and working out how I can do that (mostly by selling premium bonds ... sob)

How sad that people come on a thread just to give a snarky comment. Do you go on other threads that don’t apply to you just to be a dick? 😅

OP, yes we’ll be keeping our youngest in her private school regardless. Oldest is at uni.

We’ll probably be helping SIL out as well to keep our nieces at their school. We don’t want them having to move schools, one has SEN and state couldn’t meet her needs.

Please join ENT. A great support group campaigning on behalf of parents.

Wow are you as lovely in real life?
There is no need to comment just to bring other people down, just scroll past.

Whether you agree with private schools or not, and I don’t, I’m aware enough to know that any child, in any school, most likely will suffer by having to change schools. that’s never a good thing.

Same - because when it's put like this, it really does highlight how bonkers it is. KS can afford private, has experienced it himself, but is selfishly taking up a coveted space in a state primary that could have gone to someone who can't afford private.

No way would he put his kids in a sink hole state.

The person I have zero empathy with is the one who wrote:

I teach in a secondary where even after VAT was abolished on sanitary products I regularly have to buy my students tampons, so forgive me if I don't g8ve a fuck about your privilege.

The bit about where she said she didn't give a fuck about the OP's privilege. Do you really think I should give a fuck about this poster and anything she does if she comes onto a thread to say she doesn't give a fuck about what the OP's posted about?

You also have no idea how I grew up, or how my dh grew up. I've seen plenty.

Because these threads (specifically those started in AIBU by a brand new username on an almsot daily basis) are not about having a constructive conversation.

They're purely about pushing the 'oooo labour will ruin everything for everybody" line that the tories have decided to pursue.

You only have to look at the evolution of the narrative and language used in these threads to see what the agenda is here.

I was replying to someone saying they didn't believe that people can't afford tampons.

I didn't see you telling them their reply was pointless?

It’s the politics of envy. Bringing the top down not the bottom up.

Yhe fantastic stae school will already be full!