If you’re charged VAT will you remove your child from their private school? I’m v stressed!

[Liikklu]

We won’t be able to pay the increase. Only hope is asking grandparents for the shortfall which we don’t want to do. Anyone else in a similar boat? Do you think it will literally be a 20% increase on fees or will schools absorb some of it? Our school has said they will address the matter ‘if and when’ it applies.

No it's not about me. It's not aimed at any one individual. Every government policy affects individuals but it is not aimed at any one.

The Tory party's policies have affected the pay of state school teachers very significantly over 14 years, but they were not aimed at individuals. They were part of a whole raft of policies that have dramatically cut spending in public services and funding to local councils because the Conservative party believes the State should pay for as little as possible so it can keep taxation low (which benefits the most wealthy the most and negatively affects the poorest the most) . The effect on those who work for, need and use those public services most has been very significant and in some cases catastrophic. However, philosophically, that is where the Tories stand on public services.... and this is where Labour stand on private education.

@Bululu Well you did not answer my question. Which was what do you mean by commie? Would you like to reply to that?

Not at the moment but it's only a matter of time if VAT is brought in on private education for the under 18's IMO.

Oh come on, you’re spitting hairs slightly. He still got a leg-up from the type of institution he now wants to bring down. Bite the hand that feeds you much.

It has to jump through a lot of hoops before it could be implemented… we’re talking years.

I really wouldn’t worry about it just yet. Get saving in the meantime.

@Karensalright I did. You want a drawing? Where are you going with your communist ideas. They are ridiculous.

Who is ‘you’? I don’t have kids at private.

I don’t want to send my children to state school because of all the bellend state school parents like you on these threads who delight in mocking small children.

eg the posters frothing over the idea a reception child is an exceptional reader, might be therefore gifted and talented and in want of some extra support (but people are extremely ignorant about the fact this is also a type of special education need and are too jealous to see straight so have to make fun of a child).

In answer to your question @Liikklu we are fortunate to only have 1 more in private, if this had been a few years ago and it was 20% x 3 plus the fee rises to pay teachers more for CoL then we'd have been very stuck.

It does mean we won't be spending that 20% extra in our local shops and restaurants like we currently do so less money in the local economy.

Aside from the impact known and unknown this policy is terrible as much as anything for the us v them rhetoric and vitriol that it's causing. Policies that pit sections of society against another are detrimental, see also 'benefits scroungers' and 'illegal immigrants, horrible.

@Garlicked It's not say £4,000 in earnings though is it. Assuming a higher tax payer then it's nearer £8,000 extra to earn, to have a net payment of £4,000. Double that for 2 children. Definitely, not down the back of the sofa money.

Some LEAs are already saying they don't have enough places for pupils to move from the private sector to the state (Newcastle, Cambridge).

Then why bother commenting. If you don’t have kids at private school why are you even reading this thread. Leave it to those that actually want the correct advice/information from others.

@misslooloo

What hoops? All advice is expect for April 25, hope for Sep 25.

Not seeing too many hoops…

Think a lot of parents have already started moving in anticipation - saw a Times article recently that said the number of new parents signing up had dropped by 7%. A local catholic private school to me in Alton has announced it is closing as pupil numbers for next year had fallen due to uncertainty over the VAT issue.

Ourselves, we are lucky our son decided to apply to a very good state 6th form and won a bursary to board, so have been saved the stress of wondering how we’d keep him in the private school he has gone to for 8 years… one that has supported him through his ASD/ADHD diagnosis that the state school missed (and in fact refused to even consider he had ASD at all… precisely like his older sister).

Finally looking forward to having some savings at last and maybe going on an overseas holiday, so the institute of fiscal policy’s argument that parents leaving the private sector - and thus not contributing to the VAT haul - would in stead be spending their money on other VAT able things, so it’s all good 👍…. Err, no we won’t.

And private education

Or address the system of inequality that you benefited from and can see and understand that most others are unable to. I'm fine with politicians with a social conscience and a modicum of integrity. It's been 14 years of the opposite.

Because they are the same people who can’t afford tampons.
seriously. You have done nothing other than prove the point of how out of step the debate on vat on school fees is with the general population.

I really don't give a shit, I was replying to the OP and I have zero idea why you are on the thread other than to wind people up who are having to make some serious life changes.

My Dd won't get her SEN and so will probably drop grades. The state sector will have to have her and help her at public expense and I will have to stop working a job I love and am good at. I don't know who this is benefiting but some idealistic notion that 36k teachers will be magicked out of thin air apparently happy to be paid next to nothing in schools which have asbestos.

That’s Tony Blair’s fault, that is. And what about Jeremy Corbyn, eh?

Honestly some of this is so mean. Lots of people with kids in private school aren't mega wealthy and make massive sacrifices to sent their kids to the best school near them .
I would hate to have to move my kids away from their current state school where they are settled and have friends and have nothing but sympathy for people who might be forced to do that regardless of what type or school it is. Show a little empathy.

Tell us you vote Tory without telling us you vote Tory…

I was thinking this. 🤣 I also have a Henrietta (happy in state school as it stands🤣)

Shame you can't debate without the name calling

What a novel idea. I wonder why no one has ever thought about it before?

@Bululu yes how stupid of me to say that all children should start off on an equal footing. How stupid to say that an equal society requires equal opportunities.

Obvs you are on here because you are gonna be stretched by VAT so are not super privileged, just have enough to buy your children a slightly better chance.

Good for you, ( i get that)

Like i said if you cannot buy out, then maybe things will change (so folk like Kier and Blair and all the tories cannot go “i am alright jack”

Sensible people will have already worked an increase year on year into their sums so this is on top of that, our increases were 2/3% but now nearly 10% for last couple of years.

DH lost his job in lockdown, got a new job but 15k paycut, DS just going into GCSEs meant we decided to keep the DCs there for stability for the DCs, for exams/additional needs. This is why we would struggle. We could afford it comfortably 4 years ago but with all the fee increases, job loss, bill increases I am glad the end is in sight.