Is the teaching of transgender ideology really that common in primary schools?

[teachingintheuk]

I've applied to commence a PGCE in primary education in September, (Northamptonshire). Last night I came across this video on youtube and to say I'm shocked is an understatement. d
I'd like to ask the teachers and parents on this site - is this video of a teacher/parent meeting just an anomaly? Surely as a primary school teacher I wouldn't be expected to teach transgender beliefs to children? Throughout the video, the teacher says she is simply following statutory guidance but faith schools wouldn't teach this, surely? I would like to know if this really is common place, or is simply a one-off and I shouldn't let this video concern me. Thanks.

I missed the crucial word.

”So your DD school….”

Exactly!

To be clear - my dd was a child at the school not a teacher!
The kids did not seem to notice that Miss Bloggs is transgender. At primary age they pay little attention to how their teachers look.
I am GC but I don't think there is anything wrong with addressing someone as 'Miss' if that is what they prefer to be called. There is no confusion or gaslighting for the kids because they genuinely never thought that Miss Bloggs is really a man.
The TA in question wears sensible clothes in the same style that would be typical of a female teacher - she wasn't turning up dressed like a drag queen or anything that would draw attention.

”So your DD school….”

Yes, that makes more sense with that addition!

Sorry, but children easily differentiate between the sexes. It's a sense that is built into us from birth. His voice, height, build, hands and feet size, gait even - all indicate to us on a subconscious level the sex of the person in front of us, regardless of what they're wearing.

They can differentiate. But if school starts telling them the person they instinctively identify as a male is actually female then this starts to mess with their understanding of the world, their ability to identify risk, their personal boundaries.

So what do you think the school should have done instead? Refuse to employ a transgender member of staff?

My DDs’ primary definitely taught transgender ideology, using the Alien Nation books from the godawful Proud Trust. The book asks kids to decide (based on regressive stereotypes, obviously, because that is all they have) whether they are “planet boy” or “planet girl” or “non binary”.

https://www.theproudtrust.org/schools-and-training/primary-resources/alien-nation-book-and-resources/

I think the teachers are part of the “be kind” gang rather than TRAs, but I really struggle how anyone with half a brain cell can’t see how ridiculous it all is.

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Do you find most of the children find it silly or does most of it go over their heads? Thanks .

I really don't think you should be a teacher if you think it's an 'ideology'. I'd certainly never want you teaching my kids. it's a fact and a choice that some make out of necessity.

What is the fact and why is it necessary to make other people lie about your sex? What about men like Grayson Perry, who openly acknowledge that identifying as a woman, and having others treat them that way, is for sexual purposes - they do it because they find it arousing? Do you distinguish them and if so how?

For starters, please define ‘gender’.

I think kids trust what their teachers tell them, and if their parents aren’t aware of it then they get no balance. Not all will believe it, but it is preparing them to believe it/not question it further down the line. In my view it is akin to indoctrinating children into a religion, which no one sane would think is a good thing, but this new religion cannot tolerate dissent or questioning, and so indoctrination is necessary.

The harm that this ideology is causing to young people will be a major scandal in the future, and any teachers who uncritically peddle this nonsense will have to answer for it.

I really don't think you should be a parent if you teach your children it's possible they could born into the wrong body.

'It's a fact' - where is the evidence? What are you basing this on?
'A choice that some make out of necessity' - what does that even mean? Why is it necessary?

Why is it when I was growing up, there were no children claiming to feel distressed owing to being born in the wrong body, but now two thirds of secondary school teachers have said they have taught a 'transgender child' at some point?

I really don't think you should be a teacher if you think it's an 'ideology'.

That people can change sex, or should be regarded as the opposite sex on their say so, regardless of its impact on others? Of course it's an ideology.

Pffft. Look at all the other stuff on the curriculum. People make such a fuss about what amounts to basically one PowerPoint slide a year.

I'm secondary and it is mentioned in about 30 seconds. Kids nod, and then we get into the main stuff.

Media and Mumsnet seem to think it's a really big thing. It isn't.

I think it depends on which third party provider the schools have bought in. Some are worse than others. Cornwall use Jigsaw. There's an interesting thread about Jigsaw on the Feminism ( naughty step) board.

It is clearly not ‘one PowerPoint slide a year’ in many many schools though is it?

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And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

lol

My son came home from reception or year 1, can't remember which, saying boys can be girls and girls can be boys, we very quickly corrected that! He was very confused. Aren't we all.

I think you really know if a school will suit you when you apply for jobs. I don’t recognise this huge fuss about transgender Dc, it’s a tiny tiny part of the job and curriculum (which does matter although the op prefers a video) and there’s so much else to be taught. Surely this isn’t a deal breaker for someone deciding to teach?

What do you mean by I prefer a video? Whoever you are, you're coming across as an oddball.

I'm a teacher in an independent senior school and:

It's about a third of the year 12 pshe scheme of work. One week caster semenya and gender politics in sports, another week diversity and inclusion in the workplace (but ofc always centred on trans rights) etc. For a third of the year.

It's the theme in about one in three assemblies. The other day, because it was "trans awareness week". But there's always something that makes it currently relevant, apparently.

There's an upper school "gender politics society", formerly known as the feminist society "femsoc". Not hard to guess how the theme might have changed.

Approx once a term, we get another all-teachers email about a pupil changing name/pronouns.

There's a Diversity and Inclusion staff steering group. I'm not in it but I read the minutes. Mostly about gender/trans politics with a priority on "using correct terminology about LGBT matters". Not so much "how can we help mums returning from mat leave".

Edit: we also have badges you can buy with both the school crest and the progress flag on, on the same badge. About a third of teachers wear it on their lanyard.

@Mummymummy89 And in a primary school how much time is devoted to this? I think hardly any.

@teachingintheuk As I’ve been a governor at 3 schools I’m pretty straightforward! You seem to think tiny pieces of evidence shows something much more widespread and a huge issue. It simply is not. If you had even been in many schools or looked in depth at the curriculum you would know that. Instead you think you won’t be a teacher because of a video. That’s a bizarre standpoint. Why not gather curriculum info from where you might teach?