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Headteacher used a biscuit in Maths and tried to feed our Coeliac daughter and when told not to, laughed about it

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RLBo · 29/09/2023 15:44

Our daughter has Coeliac Disease - (the school is well aware of this as she is hyper sensitive). She had a 1:1 Maths lesson with the Headteacher who used a non gluten free biscuit to demonstrate fractions, the head teacher broke the biscuit apart and put it in our daughters face and said 'go on eat it, it's yours' pushing the biscuit towards her. Our daughter said 'no I can't eat it, it will make me ill' to which the headteacher laughed and said 'oh I will eat it then, yum yum yum' putting crumbs all over our daughter and the desk.

I was shocked at this behaviour and made a complaint. To which the reply was; the headteacher said she had forgotten that our daughter was Coeliac and that she wasn't wrong in doing this?

How would you respond? because in my eyes, it's once again a school brushing something that is serious under the carpet and dismissing it.

Interested to know your thoughts

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Healingfrommothernarc · 29/09/2023 16:24

I think the problem is, those who don't experience coeliac or have relatives/friends with coeliac, don't know how ill people with it get when they are exposed to even a few crumbs.

Teacher has been blazee...
Needs educating and hopefully it does not happen again.

People who have coeliac children see 1st hand how ill they get and its a sad situation always avoidable. I totally get ops point of view. The few crumbs are enough to make ops child violently sick and in severe pain for a few days.

It needs more awareness for sure.

BananaSpanner · 29/09/2023 16:24

Winewednesday · 29/09/2023 16:22

Ps I don't think you need to 'get a grip' you haven't said you want them sacked so not sure where that has come from.

Well she’s not happy with the school saying the teacher forgot and she thinks they’re dismissing it. It would suggest she wants some sort of disciplinary response.

MidnightOnceMore · 29/09/2023 16:24

14blackcrows · 29/09/2023 16:22

I think you are massively overreacting here. The headteacher didn't try and make her eat the biscuit. Just offered it to her. There'll be hundreds of kids in that school how do you expect a teacher to remember their dietary requirements... especially as this is a slightly older child who will know them themselves. I mean its not the lunch lady, but even if it was its no big deal because your daughter remembered and didn't eat it! I hope you didn't encourage your child to feel hurt by this as though it were a personal attack.. I hope you spoke to her about how sometimes people just forget but well done to her for remembering.

The teacher has a legal duty of care, they don't have to remember because they can and should check.

WrongSwanson · 29/09/2023 16:25

Greydogs123 · 29/09/2023 16:20

This thread is demonstrating exactly why it is so hard for people with allergies to keep themselves safe.
There should be a protocol in which before food is used with children a check is done to see if said child/ren are allergic in any way. What if it was something which could cause anaphylaxis through airborne contamination? Would that be the same reaction? Teachers can’t be expected to remember every allergy, but they should have the sense to check.

Exactly.

There should be a clear risk assessment for using food in the classroom and it should be clear they need to check the children's allergies every time

Any school that isn't doing this is being profoundly negligent.

Iammetoday · 29/09/2023 16:25

Op just read some of the comments - it really highlights the misunderstanding about coeliacs. Lots of people commenting probably haven't a clue what they're commenting on and showing their ignorance!

Coeliacs uk have a school pack- you can print off and give to the teacher and school or email it. Ensure you have a Health Care Plan. I have it written on that no food to be used without checking this us first ( learnt after a few experiences!).

SquirrelFeeder · 29/09/2023 16:26

Offering a child a biscuit is not a crime. It was an oversight. As for "putting crumbs all over our daughter" well it honestly baffles me as to how she managed this. Even a crumbly Hobnob doesn't projectile that many crumbs as to result in them being "all over" anyone, even the person eating one.

TheMurderousGoose · 29/09/2023 16:26

MidnightOnceMore · 29/09/2023 16:20

The responses you've had are weird.

The Headteacher behaved unprofessionally at best, possibly negligently, and the response to the complaint is inadequate.

The next step for a complaint is presumably the governing body.

The key question is how does the school ensure it isn't 'forgotten' again given their legal duty to remember these things.

Agree. On MN it's quite the thing to tell the OP she's overreacting, no matter the details.

MidnightOnceMore · 29/09/2023 16:26

BananaSpanner · 29/09/2023 16:24

Well she’s not happy with the school saying the teacher forgot and she thinks they’re dismissing it. It would suggest she wants some sort of disciplinary response.

I think the op wants reassurance the school is taking its legal duty to care properly for pupils seriously.

Healingfrommothernarc · 29/09/2023 16:26

MidnightOnceMore · 29/09/2023 16:24

The teacher has a legal duty of care, they don't have to remember because they can and should check.

Not over reacting at all.

Those saying its over reaction don't understand how ill coeliac children get when exposed to gluten. Even a few crumbs.

People need educating.

It's the child that suffers and parents deal with outfall of lack of education sbout coeliac.

Winewednesday · 29/09/2023 16:28

Banana spanner - the op has asked others people's thoughts. I'm pretty sure she doesn't want the head sacked but she wants the head to accept that it was a careless error rather then brush it under the carpet like out doesn't matter.

WrongSwanson · 29/09/2023 16:28

PuttingDownRoots · 29/09/2023 16:09

Forgetting... it happens.

Reaction afterwards was off. I would expect a headteacher to have better understanding of allergy protocols.

It should never happen in a classroom environment. Every school should have a clear policy that says no food in the classroom unless all checks have been made. It should be obvious food isn't benign but life or death for some children

SquirrelFeeder · 29/09/2023 16:28

@Healingfrommothernarc If it's that bad then shouldn't the school be completely gluten-free? Genuine question

Figgygal · 29/09/2023 16:29

Oh for god sake my dh Has CD so I do know how serious it is and still think you're being ridiculous. Your dd knew not to eat it, didn't eat it and people are fallible. Move on!!

SquirrelFeeder · 29/09/2023 16:29

LegendsBeyond · 29/09/2023 16:11

You’re over reacting. She didn’t actually force feed the child did she? She probably has 100’s of pupils in her school. She can’t remember everything 🙄

This

GingerKombucha · 29/09/2023 16:30

Sounds like a great teacher trying to make fractions fun, she made a simple, human mistake and no harm came of it.

MidnightOnceMore · 29/09/2023 16:30

SquirrelFeeder · 29/09/2023 16:26

Offering a child a biscuit is not a crime. It was an oversight. As for "putting crumbs all over our daughter" well it honestly baffles me as to how she managed this. Even a crumbly Hobnob doesn't projectile that many crumbs as to result in them being "all over" anyone, even the person eating one.

If a young child has a recorded health diagnosis and ate the proferred item it very well could be deemed negligent.

To 'forget' a child has a diagnosed health condition is unacceptable.

booktime1 · 29/09/2023 16:31

I'm going to watch dead poets society and see how many things are deemed inappropriate by modern standards. No wonder we don't have inspiring teachers around anymore, why don't we just get robots to do it or better still put them in front of the tv. Honestly you're being ridiculous

dutysuite · 29/09/2023 16:32

In my experience some schools don’t always take food allergies seriously. My son is allergic to sesame and chickpeas, food sold in the canteen not listed with ingredients or food contaminated have caused issues for him, when I’ve reported it to the school it was just brushed off, they just couldn’t seem to grasp the fact he could have died, they only listened when I got other official bodies involved.

MidnightOnceMore · 29/09/2023 16:32

GingerKombucha · 29/09/2023 16:30

Sounds like a great teacher trying to make fractions fun, she made a simple, human mistake and no harm came of it.

The head shouldn't be so careless as to make such a 'mistake'. It's not good enough.

MidnightOnceMore · 29/09/2023 16:35

booktime1 · 29/09/2023 16:31

I'm going to watch dead poets society and see how many things are deemed inappropriate by modern standards. No wonder we don't have inspiring teachers around anymore, why don't we just get robots to do it or better still put them in front of the tv. Honestly you're being ridiculous

I don't see what is 'inspiring' about being forgetful and not knowing or caring about your pupils.

UpUpUpU · 29/09/2023 16:35

I am coeliac and this is ridiculous. She has to ingest the crumbs to have a reaction so unless she was sat with her mouth wide open whilst the biscuit shot its projectiles of crumbs, I think she’ll be pretty safe.
mid course, talk to the school and say you are disappointed but it is an over reaction

Winewednesday · 29/09/2023 16:36

OP ignore the thoughtless posts. Speak to the head and school and raise your concerns again. I'm sure they can use something other than food to teach the children...

Mountainous · 29/09/2023 16:37

I don't think forgetting and using the biscuit in the lesson is a huge crime, but the reponse afterwards is awful. I think I would complain actually, that's close to bullying, if not actually bullying. Not what the HT should be modelling or professional behaviour on her part.

WrongSwanson · 29/09/2023 16:37

GingerKombucha · 29/09/2023 16:30

Sounds like a great teacher trying to make fractions fun, she made a simple, human mistake and no harm came of it.

For children with allergies/coeliac, food is deadly serious, not fun, and I think if someone can't wrap their head round that they shouldn't be a teacher, let alone a head teacher

https://www.benedictblythe.com/safe-schools/

"1 in 40 school children suffer from at least one serious allergy, and 20% of serious allergic reactions to food happen while a child is at school."

Benedict Blythe died from an allergic reaction at school. His mum is campaigning for better training and allergy policies for schools.

This thread, and the profound ignorance displayed by some, demonstrates why her campaign is needed.

Safe Schools - Benedict Blythe Foundation

https://www.benedictblythe.com/safe-schools

happyinherts · 29/09/2023 16:37

Totally out of order. Why on earth is a Head Teacher demonstrating mathematical functions with food when there are plenty of practical ways of doing this. It's a safeguarding and health and safety issue, given the many types of allergies and intolerances which children can suffer from.

The Head Teacher should have been absolutely mortified when realising the mistake too. Trivialising it shows complete unprofessionalism and this should be reported to the Board of Governors too.

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