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takemetothespace · 17/09/2023 12:41

As title says. I am confused whether combing beaches needs hyphen or not.

Please help me with this punctuation education.
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AllProperTeaIsTheft · 17/09/2023 12:43

No, it doesn't.

DorisHatt · 17/09/2023 12:45

It is A - "combing" and beaches is not a noun phrase. It is a separate verb. I am ploughing fields, I am searching shelves etc.

For example nineteenth-century society has a hypen.

TeenDivided · 17/09/2023 12:45

No it doesn't. I think the answer is A.

combing is a verb it is what you are doing, beaches is where you are doing it, it could equally be fields.

Metal-detecting is hyphened as without it it would be a detecting kit that is metal.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 17/09/2023 12:46

Beachcomb / beachcombing etc are one word, no hyphen anyway. But you definitely wouldn't use a hyphen when using combing' separately before the word 'beaches' like that, any more than you would if you said e.g. 'I like eating crisps'.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 17/09/2023 12:47

Yep, definitely answer A.

takemetothespace · 17/09/2023 12:47

Thank you

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OnAFrolicOfMyOwn · 17/09/2023 12:49

A.

There is no such thing as a 'combing-beach'.

off · 17/09/2023 13:03

It's a bit like "every day" vs. "everyday".

If you could equally replace "every day" with "most days" or "every week" or "every single day" or "every other day" — that is, "every" and "day" are operating as independent words within the sentence — then you say "every day" e.g. "I go shopping every day".

But if you're using "everyday" as an adjective meaning something like commonplace or ordinary, like "it's just an everyday sandwich, nothing special", then it's all one word.

Same with this — if the words are operating independently in the sentence, they're separate, but when the words have become combined into a single meaning-unit, you hyphenate them, or join them into one word.

If you said "This is my kit for detecting metal" the words are operating separately in the sentence. But with "This is my metal-detecting kit" the word "metal-detecting" has been turned into a single adjective made up of two words rearranged and pushed together.

It usually happens when multiple words come together to make up a new adjective, like everyday or metal-detecting. But it can also happen in other ways.

With "I like combing beaches", you could just as easily say "searching beaches" or "combing dunes", if you wanted to, so these two words are acting as independent words and shouldn't have a hyphen.

But you can turn them into a single meaning-unit by saying "I like beachcombing/I like beach-combing", in which case they're rearranged and pushed together into one word or a hyphenated word.

clary · 17/09/2023 13:18

Yes A is correct. Try putting words in between - I love combing the beaches - so no hyphen. Metal-detecting kit needs a hyphen as it is a kit for detecting metal - not a metal kit for detecting.

A metal detecting kit might be Hercule Poirot's silver magnifying glass and titanium tweezers.

TheSpikySpinosaurus · 17/09/2023 16:35

A is correct.

Lifeinlists · 17/09/2023 16:49

No hyphen is required in any of those options. If D had omitted the hyphen between detecting and kit then it would have been correct.

What's the source of this?

off · 17/09/2023 16:56

Lifeinlists · 17/09/2023 16:49

No hyphen is required in any of those options. If D had omitted the hyphen between detecting and kit then it would have been correct.

What's the source of this?

No, there's a hyphen between metal and detecting because metal-detecting is an adjective being used to describe the kit.

If you wrote "I brought purple hats for my purple-loving friends", it would be clear you're using purple-loving as an adjective to describe some of your friends. If you said "I brought purple hats for my purple loving friends" then you might well be taken to mean that some of your friends are both loving and purple.

clary · 17/09/2023 17:20

Lifeinlists · 17/09/2023 16:49

No hyphen is required in any of those options. If D had omitted the hyphen between detecting and kit then it would have been correct.

What's the source of this?

Yeps agree with @off - hyphen is needed.

Here is an actual example from an NHS letter:
"We offer six monthly appointments"

errr I think not! What they offered was "six-monthly appointments" - in other words, an apt every six months - not one appointment a month for six months! I should have held them to that hahaha and turned up every fourth Friday Grin

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